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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 03:59 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If anyone gets an email with an attachment from me, for God's sake do not open it.

Somehow I must have a self replicating virus. So far only two people have said they got the questionable email from me. But I have received literally hundreds and hundreds, maybe thousands by now, of viruses over email today. I don't know how I got it....but do know it affected my norton av and made it go haywire.

I sure hope I did not give anyone a virus. It seems to have hit me harder than anyone
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Perry Comer
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 05:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

yikes

could be CE since he is having problems

The Wings management are fighting all kinds of bugs and their computers are down.


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Stacy Anderson
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 06:19 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Very good of you to warn people, Laurel. Some people wouldn't take the time to be considerate. Do you have firewall? We have it and it's saved us a lot of these problems. Firewall is a must have along with Norton.

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Jennifer Lynn
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 07:06 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've had email returned to me that says its undeliverable, for whatever reason... and its to people I don't even know, so it makes me think that there is a wormy thing out there collecting some sort of email address list. I know I don't have a virus because I've done several scans and made sure my virus definitions are up to date as well... So I'm thinking Laurel and I have been the victims of something similar.
And yep, I'm firewalled....

Jenn
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Perry Comer
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Posted on Sunday, June 13, 2004 - 08:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

could be the e-mail server your mail is routed through
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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Laurel,

I was just getting online to make sure you were aware that something was happening with your email. I got one this morning, but did not open the attachment. I knew it was something bad when it said "Read Me!" with nothing else.

Glad to know you are aware of it.

Oh, and in reference to the returned email thingy, Jenn, I get that at work, too. As long as my hotmail account is routed through my Outlook, I get these bounce backs from addresses I don't even HAVE, let alone never sent anything to. I try to keep it unrouted as much as possible, but it is the only means I have of forwarding news items that come through my outlook email because my intercompany doesn't want to work properly. (pooey!)

Anyhow, If you use outlook, try removing the email address from Outlook and just checking it by visiting the site. That way, you can narrow down if it is merely something to do with Outlook.

LA-ter.
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C. E. Winterland
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:42 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Perry,

You wrote:

yikes

could be CE since he is having problems

The Wings management are fighting all kinds of bugs and their computers are down.


I'm not having problems... nothing out of the ordinary here... Just curious as to why you would say that. Have you been receiving things that appear to be from me?

CEW
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Perry Comer
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 07:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Must have been dreaming, sorry CE, I thought I read a post where you said you had a bug that was giving you fits to remove. No harm intended.


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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 08:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Here is the latest.

The internet provider told me I was targeted by spam viruses. Why, I have no idea. But so far three different virus scans have showed my computer to be virus free. Whether it is or not, I have no idea.

The internet provider gave me a new email addy and so far no viruses have come in over it and I am not using outlook express. Any emails I send out are going through my hotmail account. if anyone gets any more bad emails from me, please let me know.

my new address is johnson@diodecom.net. So far I've run a Norton scan, a Grisoft AVG scan, and that housecall antivirus scan and they all say I do not have a virus. Do any of you computer savvy folks have anything else to suggest?

My provider has a firewall, and maintains a separate quarantine site for suspicious emails. The viruses were not coming to me, but that quarantine site was sending me notices that I had them in quarantine.

The bad emails must not have gone out to everyone in my address book or everyone here would have received one. None of my family received one as far as I know. And those I email daily have not received one. So far only Jenn, Frank Mazur, LA, and a lady I know who is not a writer have received bad emails from my address.

sigh
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C. E. Winterland
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 09:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Perry,

I never thought you intended anything other than information. I ust wanted tomake certain there wasn't anything going on that I didn't know about.

You must be thinking of the spyware issue from a month ago perhaps.

CEW
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 01:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

OK here is the next chapter in the computer diaries.

The computer store tech told me to reinstall norton. Norton did a pre- install scan and found no viruses. After it was re-installed, it went crazy again. I had my computer unhooked from the satellite so nothing could come in or go out. But my screen filled up with hundreds of those scanning messages - the ones that pop up in the task bar when and emaill is sent. I could not shut down the computer so had to unhook it from the electrical plug in.

I have thought all along that the Norton program was somehow corrupted but the computer tech says NO. why would those email boxes fill up my screen when no email is going out? The tech thinks I'm crazy and hell.....maybe I am.

Norton disabled itself and I am afraid to enable it for fear those boxes will appear again.

Does anyone have a suggestion? Please? Neither my internet provider tech service nor the computer tech service have heard of this situation.
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Kevin P. Grover
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 01:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Take it to the tech and fire it up in front of him.

Then, after he watches it do what you said above...maybe he won't think you're too crazy.
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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 01:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yeah, what he said.

LA
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Posted on Monday, June 14, 2004 - 06:01 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

install AntiVir AVAST HOME EDITION from AntiVir.com. It is free and has kept my puter going really great. Also, after you get rid of the virisus you have, then go to the nearest comp store and get ZONEALARM PRO and PEST PATROL, the two cost about $70.00 but come as a pkg and install the Zone Alarm first then the Pest Patrol, and you will not have any sypware, ads. popup, virisus, and it comes with its won firewall. Good systems to have, and AntiVir Avast always updates itself on its own. So does Zone Alarm Pro. Avast cleans up your past virisus that may still be lurking on your puter.

I have had over 8,000 access attempts and 400 of those have been high rated and the programs have blocked ALL of them. That is in the lasst 3 months.

Claudia
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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 12:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Send me your virus Laurel, I collect them! I don’t have this one yet…

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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 01:45 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

haha Harry.

Everything seems OK now. The techs at my internet provider and the tech at the computer center were very little help.

Why my Norton's outgoing email scanner kept scanning like I was sending out a zillion emails even when the computer was disconnected from satellite is a mystery to everyone.

I unplugged the computer from electricity and when I plugged it back in, everything worked fine.

I ran three different scans from different anitivirus programs again this morning. All came up free of virus. Norton is working fine again, and no one can explain it.

The satellite tech said maybe the satellite got struck by lightning. Well, OK, but how could that cause several thousand viruses to come in to me?

I have a new email address now and no more viruses came in. Diode thinks it was a focused attack on me.
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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 02:03 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

If it really was a focussed attack than that is a serious business, but I can’t imagine you have enemies at all.

I am actually thinking of buying a Mac instead of an IBM/Microcrap thing.
Those computers are more expensive, but seem to be more reliable and less sensitive to viruses. (Macro viruses still will work on those things too)

I know someone who owns a Macintosh, he bought a normal PC as well as he couldn’t get all the software he wanted (some radio amateur stuff).
He called me in a panic “I’ve got a fatal error at segment E34#$%^ whatever missing $%^ HELP!”
I told him to relax, and that it is normal to see such messages every now and than. And also that it is normal for sudden changes to take place or that a file or a program is suddenly corrupt, even when you clean up your disk every now and then.
He wasn’t used to such things at all. It also takes much more time to keep a PC going, it always needs maintenance, clean up this, back up that.

A Mac running at a lower clock than an IBM can still run software much faster. The whole architecture is much better. But oh, the money!
On the other hand, I am really not patient enough to keep solving little annoying computer problems. It might be worth the money…
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 03:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Someone who is far more computer savvy than I suggested I run Linux and Windows side by side. I said HUH?? I can barely run freaking windows.

I also thought of one of those imacs, but the local computer techs who have successfully fielded every other problem - except this last one - don't work with macs. Guess I will just hope this does not happen again soon and trust the programs in place to work.

I am the third writer I know who has had such a focused attack with spam viruses. One in Arizona, one in Tennessee, and me. I can't even imagine having the knowledge to do such a thing.
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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 06:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Laurel,

Would you believe that the same thing was happening with my husband's computer that was happening with yours, at the same time? I didn't put 2 and 2 together until my power supply died and I've had to use his system. But he was getting masses of virus warnings, too. And none of the virus programs were showing anything existant (I installed and ran 2 more virus programs to find what was causing the problem) anywhere. And the same thing--shut down, it's been working fine since.

A little suspicious if you ask me.

Now, because I've heard of so many problems with Outlook, I won't use it, so I don't have the outgoing mail scan (other then the scan provided by the email providers) but I do whatever it takes to keep the household computers free from viruses.

But it is interesting what was going on. (Now, I just need to get a new power supply so that I can get MY system back into operable condition again.)

LA
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

A couple months ago two writers I know had exactly the same scenario. A couple weeks ago, another writer I know had it. At that same time a publisher I know was targeted in the same way.

My internet provider said it has happened to several people he knows and the only option - once they have discovered that their computers were free of viruses - was to get a new email address so the spamming viruses bounce back as undeliverable at the old address.
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Molly Brent
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I had exactly the same problem..........after 4 times in the shop, with them installing all kinds of things, it still had a virus or many of them.......there is one that goes on the hard drive (but as it turned out I didn't have that one) they finally took everything off and started over.......
it is working better but some things are still messed up.......

I am just going to use it this way for a short time and then get a new one
after 4 times in the shop, I don't think it can be fixed............it would work for a day for two and then wham again........

This is a new Dell and it had all the latest anti virus stuff on it. I know nothing about it so would take it in each time.....I never open an attachment unless I know it's coming........We have an old HP and now it is doing the same thing since I used it when mine was in the shop.........

I also had the returned e mails that weren't sent......

Molly
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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Tuesday, June 15, 2004 - 07:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The problem with getting new email addresses would be I have about 10 different addys (different emails for different departments at work, home, AIB, and then the standard from the ISP), my husband 2, and each of the 3 oldest kids have between 2 and 5 emails. There is no way of knowing to which it came. And many of those addy's cannot be changed.

Ah, well. Watch closely, and let my son get out his hacker program to bounce the attacks back to the sender. It's nice having someone who is trained to protect things that way.

Oh, well. I'm exhausted and heading to nighty, night.

LA
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C. E. Winterland
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Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 06:19 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a suggestion for those of you who have the symptoms described in this thread... two, actually...

1) go to your start menu, select "search" or "find" and search your C: drive for "win32config.exe"

2) go to your start menu, select "run", type "regedit" in the box and hit enter. In the registry, go to "edit" and "find", and look for "Hazafibb"

The win32config.exe file is created by the W32.Paps.A virus, which is one of the latest mass-mailing worms created by those darn virus creators (who should be torn apart by force, beginning with each bodily extension, starting with finger and toe nails)

The "hazafibb" registry entry is created by the W32.Erkez.B virus... have a looksee at it's description...

W32.Erkez.B is a mass-mailing worm that sends itself to the email addresses found on an infected computer. It also copies itself to the folders that are likely to be shared on file-sharing networks.

When this worm infects a computer, it attempts to overwrite .exe files. The files that it targets are usually executables that belong to security products, including Symantec products. However, in some cases, the worm may overwrite .exe files that belong to other programs.

If the worm does overwrite .exe files, some programs or operating system functions may no longer work correctly.

This threat is compressed with FSG.



Sound familiar? Don't forget to check out (regularly, or whenever you see suspicious activity by your computer) the Symantec website at http://www.symantec.com


CEW

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Jennifer Lynn
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Posted on Wednesday, June 16, 2004 - 07:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Nope, don't have any of those....
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Cathy Lee (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 02:27 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

anyone can help me to email virus to this guy... or do anything to destroy his page.... i cant forgive him...

onishi@anyweb.co.jp
onishi@ezweb.ne.jp
info@anyweb.co.jp
www.anyweb.co.jp
http://www.an-web.com/
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 05:56 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I am scared to click on any of those links. Just call me gunshy.
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Snarzler
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 08:13 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

It could be someone cloning his email. Just because you get an address, doesn't mean its the right one. Unless you can verify the land address, trying to destroy someone because you think they're the culprit will backfire in more ways than one.

An eye for an eye leaves the whole world blind, but viruses will give us a computerless office.
If there were no creative people, would life be as interesting?
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 10:38 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Cathy Lee,
Be advised that it's against federal law to deliberately send someone a virus or hack their site, whether they deserve it or not. And you have now publicly announced your desire to do so. AND asking for help falls under the category of "conspiracy to commit.."

A bad move all around. If your PC is infected by something and sends him one on its own, you've made yourself liable.

I "feel your pain" with this issue, but if you're gonna flaunt the law, at least don't let everyone know ahead of time. You shouldn't announce "He's scum and deserves to have somebody put a bullet through his head." If he turns up dead outside a bar in a nearby town, they wanna talk to you FIRST. Similar thing with your virus wish. You're an instant suspect no matter what happened.

I've sorta been there, done that (to coin yet ANOTHER cliche). (Only mine isn't dead...yet. Just seriously assaulted. Whoever did it couldn't even get THAT right. Oh yeah..it WASN'T me but because of my big mouth I had to prove it.)

Just a thought.
Have a good'un.

Later,
Olen A.
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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Monday, September 20, 2004 - 12:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Not a good idea Cathy. Don’t let your anger lead you into trouble. Think it over, you might end up at the hurting end of such action. What did he do to you to deserve a virus?

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