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Steven Shrewsbury
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Post Number: 1085
Registered: 04-2003


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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 10:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've heard various things about subbing MSs for copyright.
How do ya'all do it? The entire double shaped MS? A single spaced version, to cut down on pages? Soem guy sent a CD of it...but I doubt that flies...
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Laurel Johnson
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Post Number: 3544
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 11:03 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The Library of Congress website gives good info on that Steven. I always submit a single spaced final draft of my manuscripts but some people have also sent the printed book when it is released. As soon as a manuscript is accepted for publication, I send in a printed off copy.

You can print off a copy of the form to be sent with the manuscript and fee from the Library of Congress website.}
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Lee Ann Ward
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Post Number: 64
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 12:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Steven~

I send in a single-spaced manuscript and that always works with no problem.

Lee Ann
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Todd Hunter
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Post Number: 1997
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Posted on Thursday, November 04, 2004 - 05:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've also heard/read that many publishers (the larger houses) frown upon copyrighted submissions...as it supposedly shows the author as a novice (?)...

I believe the theory goes that the publisher submits the copyright info for the author (and pays for it themselves)...and that by copyrighting it, you may insinuate that you don't trust the folks at said publisher...

I'm certain someone more knowledgable can jump in with more accurate info.
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 05:34 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think it's done many different ways. One best selling author with a traditional house always copyrights his work well ahead of time. His publisher then reimburses him for the fee.

I copyright my work and have the copyright verification in my possession. Not because I don't trust publishers, but because that's how I like to do it.
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Jennifer Lynn
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Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 07:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Todd, the thing with that is that if you copyright an unedited proof, you'll simply have to go back and copyright all over again once you've got the final version because any change to the manuscript makes it a new work. What's the point then?
And yes, it screams amateur.
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Harry Simenon
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Post Number: 454
Registered: 10-2003


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Posted on Friday, November 05, 2004 - 03:34 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have my manuscript copyrighted (reason: PA).
But I don't think that you have to copyright it again when you make changes like editting. You have to pay a little extra though. For major changes it would be a different story I believe.
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Steven Shrewsbury
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Posted on Saturday, November 06, 2004 - 05:35 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

So, then, why do pubs ask that one subs for copyright before pubbing? Technically, i guess one can wait until the books arrive...
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Frank P. Baron
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Post Number: 41
Registered: 10-2003

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Posted on Monday, November 08, 2004 - 09:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Todd's got it. Most publishers frown on receiving copyrighted subs for the reasons Todd gave and because the publishing world usually moves a snail's pace. If you sub a work copyrighted in 2004 and it's accepted sometime in 2005 (if you're lucky) it might be published sometime in 2006. Or 2007. A reader picking up the book may well wonder why a book copyrighted 3 years ago is only now finding its way to the shelves.

(Legit) publishers copyright on behalf of their authors a few weeks/months prior to release. And they don't charge for it. Even slapping the © symbol on a work, which many writers do whether it's registered or not, is considered a no-no these days.
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