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roseman (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 03:45 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Maybe once, maybe more...
You started out feeling the time was right, but for whatever reason, you're smoking again. Now, you're asking whether it's worth it to try quitting again. You bet it is!
Smoking is a dangerous and self-destructive habit. Various poisons contained within tobacco smoke cause or contribute to cancer of the mouth and lungs, heart problems, emphysema, gum disease and a variety of other physical diseases.
Cigarette smoking is the most preventable cause of premature death in the United States . That’s important! Want evidence of the dangers of smoking?
Consider these statistics:
A smoker’s risk of heart attack is more than twice that of nonsmokers. Cigarette smoking is the biggest risk factor for sudden cardiac death -- smokers are looking at two to four times the risk of nonsmokers. Studies have shown that cigarette smoking is also an important risk factor for stroke. The evidence also indicates that chronic exposure to environmental tobacco smoke (secondhand smoke, passive smoking) may increase the risk of heart disease.
Most smokers sincerely want to quit. They know cigarettes threaten their health, set a bad example for their children, annoy their acquaintances and cost an inordinate amount of money.
Nobody can force a smoker to quit. It's something each person has to decide for himself., Sometimes the cigarette is used as a tranquilizer.. Once a smoker understands his own smoking behavior, he will be able to cope more successfully and select the best quitting approaches for himself and the type of life-style he leads.
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Tom Elkins
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Posted on Monday, September 05, 2005 - 07:50 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I smoke because it is my patriotic duty. Without the taxes from cigarettes, state and federal government would languish in a sea of red ink...to say nothing of the multi-billion dollar judgments from big tobacco which enrich not only government, but those noble attorneys who litigate the suits. In light of the Katrina disaster, I sent a check to the Salvation Army, then stopped by the store and bought a carton. It was the least I could do.

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Teela
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 05:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Here, we have little pictures on our packs. And one of them actually has a pic of a limp cigarette, and states that smoking may cause to erectile dysfunction by lessening the blood flow to the penis.
There are at least five or so different ones. If I had my scanner working, I would love to show it to you, it's quite funny.

The pack I have today states that Cigarettes are Heartbreakers: It can cause the arteries in your heart to clog, and clogged arteries cause heart attacks and can cause death. The it show a picture of an actual human heart with an arrow pointing to a clogged attery. Lovely isn't it???
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 05:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I keep waiting for the government to crack down as hard on alcohol as it does on cigarettes. Perhaps they don't because the politicians who are so radical about smoking see nothing wrong with getting blotto at embassy par-tays.

I'm as radical about drunks as most people are about cigarettes. Alcohol wrecked my childhood, and my cigarette smoking, alcohol abusing father died of liver failure.....not lung cancer or heart disease. So I'm waiting for those little downward drooping and heart / liver penetrating arrows to show up on beer, wine, and liquor. Then maybe I'll be willing to rationally discuss smoking.
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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:43 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you, Teela for proving that the only thing worse than Big Tobacco is Big Socialist Government Medicine. Don't you just love propaganda promulgated on the premise that the taxpayers are too dumb to know what's good for them?

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Stephen Lodge
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 05:09 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

A lot of taxpayers ARE too dumb to know what's good for them (or to think for themselves), but it isn't up to the government to do their thinking for them.
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

This is radical, but points out the need for "shepherding" in many cases.
China once had a terrible opium problem. Opium dens were everywhere and a large percentage of the people (read, work force) spent their day in a stupor. Seeing it as a large social program (say, for example, like our immigration problems), they took very drastic action. They made it the death penalty to USE opium.
In one generation, they dissolved the problem.
What if we did the same with drug usage? Instead of going after dealers, go after users. Death, if you're caught using drugs. Think it would have an impact?
What about hiring illegal immigrants. Twenty years if you're caught.
What do you think would happen?
I don't propose those actions, but since many people are too stupid to breathe, what would the world be like if we did something like that?

Fodder for a novel. Someone write it. Quick.

Before some of you get your undies twisted, consider that the government already tells you how many wives or husbands you can have at one time. Why isn't that up to our "good judgment".
Bill Nelson

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Dennis Collins
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:30 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

And Bill...

The friend of the court dictates how many ex-wives you can have.
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 12:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post



Some costs of doing business are worth it, thought.
Bill Nelson

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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 12:48 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The logic behind the notion that the government is intrinsically smarter than the taxpayers who pay for it escapes me. Or does the fact that I keep paying my taxes prove that I don't have much smarts?

Is intelligence the sole factor? Or do honor, character, and integrity enter into it? How about tradition? I don't appreciate Big Brother dictating what I can and cannot do with my personal life.

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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 01:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Fred,
That feeling, unchecked, is anarchy. A society has to impose some rule over it's denizens to establish an order for the good of the whole. If you fix an omelet, you have to break eggs. The question always is, how much government, not if we should have any! How about those people who do not have the honor, character or integrity to be allowed to roam free?
In the old west, nothing positive happened until law and order was established. Prior to that, people did more or less what they wanted. I think that is counter-productive. Don't you?

Bill Nelson

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Tom Elkins
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 03:14 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Fred -

I seem to recall that you believe that government conrolled media (BBC and CBC) are more trustworthy than private media. Huh???
Tom Elkins
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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 03:22 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

We're citizens, not denizens. As such, we have the right to pursue happiness as we see fit as long as it doesn't infringe on the rights of others. In case you have forgotten, the Volstead Act was a miserable failure.

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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 04:15 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Main Entry: den·i·zen
Pronunciation: 'de-n&-z&n
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English denizeine, from Anglo-French denzein inhabitant, inner part, inner, from Old French denz within, from Late Latin deintus, from Latin de- + intus within -- more at ENT-
1 : INHABITANT
2 : one admitted to residence in a foreign country; especially : an alien admitted to rights of citizenship
3 : one that frequents a place

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I don't get your point, Fred. Your pursuit of individual freedom sounds to me like you should be Jerimiah Jonhnson. In a society with many members there simply must be rules and regulations. Yes, some won't like them.
Even in a given household (yours) where there are several people living, there are some rules that apply and some (like the kids) won't like them. Are you saying everyone should just be able to come and go as they please? No chores assigned, no curfews set, no budget to follow? What kind of household (or country) would that be? I don't follow your thinking here...
Bill Nelson

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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:25 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

All right, I'll spell it out for you. A citizen is a person with rights while a denizen, as you so aptly described, is merely an inhabitant. Our freedoms were hard fought for by generations of citizen soldiers. My father served, I served, and now my son is serving America. The United States of America is more than just another place to live. If they had wanted to live your way, my ancestors would have never left Europe.

In our last week of Basic Training, our drill sergeant took us to the PX for a beer bust. I enjoyed every ounce of it. In 1968, it was legal for a 19 year old like myself to drink on base. Today, it isn't, thanks to those who think that they know what is best for others. As far as I'm concerned, if you are old enough to die for your country, you are damn well old enough to drink.

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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 09:40 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ah Ha,
The truth...it's all about beer! I knew it.
Bill Nelson

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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:08 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Bill, it seems, cannot be fooled. I am in a wheelchair and can no longer get to the store. My housekeepers are, for the most part, too young to purchase beer. Consequently, I go without much of the time. However, there is a ray of hope. Perhaps they will build a microbrewery on the empty lot next door.

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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 12:55 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

As to the title of this thread-

if you're going fast enough to generate smoke then you DON'T have a problem with erectile dys....oh...never mind

CIGARETTE smoking.

Didn't read thoroughly.

Sorry.
As you were.

Olen A.
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 01:46 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Gives a whole new meaning to the expression, SMOKIN', doesn't it?

Bill Nelson

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Joyce Scarbrough
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Posted on Wednesday, January 25, 2006 - 02:50 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Hate to burst your bubble, guys, but speed is not exactly something women look for in lovers!

Toyce

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