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C. E. Winterland
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 09:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Bill,

It sounds like you are going to have to back up all of your pertinent files, and reformat your hard drive then reinstall Windows. The EASIEST way I know of to do this is to do something similar to what you've suggested.

Buy a new hard drive. Install it in your machine as an additional hard drive. Transfer all of your files that you want (don't transfer your windows stuff).

Then, from within what is left of DOS these days, reformat your C drive.

Actually... now that I think on it... there IS another way...

Buy a new hard drive, replace your current C: drive with it, and install windows. Once done, put your old drive in as the additional drive, and swap your files back to the new drive then format your old C: drive. You can reformat the old drive from within Windows this way.

Basically the same thing, but in reverse and without the actual 'backup' part. But you do want to watch that after you install the second root drive you don't accidentally boot from the old one afterward. If you only have one hard drive now, and one CD ROM, after you've installed the OS onto the new hard drive, make the old C: drive the slave device on your second IDE slot... behind your CD ROM drive. That should give you some buffer and lessen the risk of accidentally rebooting from the old root drive.

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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 09:58 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

The computer store locally built mine, putting in only the stuff I wanted for a work horse computer. Still, my outlook express stopped working yesterday. Cannot access anything, so all the files are trapped in it. This is the second time in ten years that's happened. Luckily, my ISP has webmail so I can still access my email being sent to OE.

The computer store wizard wants me to bring the computer to the store so he can try to "fix it". I just wish microsoft could get its crap together and make a program that works reliably. I have XP and have no problems otherwise....knock on wood.
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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 10:55 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I recently bought a Linux system computer manufactured by CPU Builders to act as a backup for my primary Compaq computer which uses Windows XP for a browser and is connected to the internet with SBC Yahoo DSL. The CPU Builders product is a beautiful machine with everything I ever wanted on a computer for a lot less than Windows' PCs cost. Also, it is not subject to viruses, pop-ups, spyware, and all the other drawbacks of Microsoft products. There is only one problem: despite a 56K modem and an ethernet card, I can't connect it to the internet. Neither SBC nor it's chief competitor, Earth Link, will have anything to do with a Linux computer. I've bought two wireless routers, but ended up sending them both back because I couldn't figure out how to configure them. Does anyone know of any ISP that will provide DSL for Linux? If I don't find one soon, I'm going to have to return the computer.

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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 01:50 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a friend who's really big into Linux...I'll ask her come Monday whether she knows the answer to your last question...but I would think it would simply be a matter of using the Compaq as your primary access to the internet, and using Linux programs to access internet sites with your CPU Builders machine...I know of more than a few people who are able to access between XP or 98 and Linux machines, so there has to be some sort of interchange software out there...
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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 05:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Todd,

Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can't understand why the two largest suppliers of DSL are intentionally turning away customers with Linux computers.

http://www.fdungan.com/vigilantes.htm
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 06:51 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have a friend who is really into Linux. He runs Linux and Windows "side by side" as he calls it. I never asked him what that meant because I can barely run ONE operating system let alone two. But he accesses the internet with both.

I'm all for anything that eliminates the endless glitches, viruses, spam, and worms. But in this neck of the woods if you ask about Linux or a Mac, people look at you like you've lost your last marble.
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Todd Hunter
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Posted on Saturday, May 07, 2005 - 07:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

They probably think Linux is some sort of communicable disease, Laurel... :-)

I imagine, Fred, that these DSL suppliers probably can run with Linux, but you have to remember that you're most likely talking with help desk personnel, who might also think that Linux is some sort of communicable disease...my guess is that there is some sort of program under Linux which will emulate what these providers need to see on your end...but don't know enough about it myself.
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D.R. Bennett
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 05:58 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Totally disable Outlook Express. It sucks in my opinion.

Go into your 'System' in the Control Pannel and change your email settings.

You can choose any email system you want to be your default.

Then again, it might not work or be as easy at is sounds.~

'My 2 "sense" worth' about email settings & systems:

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D.R. Bennett
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Posted on Sunday, May 08, 2005 - 06:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Sorry for posting twice in a row, but here is something VERY IMPORTANT:

Bill,

The reason why "The Blue Screen of Death" pops up is because you have too

many programs trying to open and run at the same time. There are programs

that you either don't use or don't need that you can remove or 'uncheck'.

It's totally up to you to decide which ones you need/use or don't.

Solution:

Click on your Start. Click on Run. The box will open. Type 'msconfig' in the

box. This should open another screen that shows your system profile, etc.

Click on "startup". It should should show you all the programs that you

have running at the same time. These have a check mark in the box beside them.

You can uncheck the programs you don't use. Be sure to keep your System Tray, your Anti-Virus files, and any other programs that you need to use the internet for 'checked'. A Restart is required. This should speed up your computer and avoid the Blue Screen.

P.S....don't hold me responsible if something explodes
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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 03:23 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

The Linux computer goes back today. It's unfortunate that I couldn't find a single person who could connect it to my DSL. I find it hard to believe that in a city of more than 250,000 people there wasn't one computer repairman who knew enough to do the job. It's a beautiful machine that runs rings around Windows PCs and isn't subject to viruses. I hate to part with it, but I have no other option.

http://www.fdungan.com/vigilantes.htm
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Posted on Thursday, May 12, 2005 - 07:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

MAJOR BUMMER!!! sorry Fred that it didn't work for you.
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C. E. Winterland
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:20 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 08:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

test worked`~~~~~
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Todd Hunter
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Posted on Wednesday, May 18, 2005 - 03:13 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

At least we would think so...
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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 06:13 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Ref information from a professional techie:

"Blue Screen of Death" means that some app on your machine has stomped on the memory space allocated to some other app. USUALLY (since it's the most prevalent) it's the Windows Kernel itself that got stomped on, and your machine is then toast (a techie geek term) and will need AT LEAST a reboot. Could be because the offending app is poorly written. Or your O.S. may have something katty-whompus when it launches the app, or when it launches something else in the background of which you are unaware. Or your machine might be infected with Dendrites, microscopic space creatures that are rumored to live in our computers and thus rule our lives.

But sometimes it's not a crisis. The screen gives you an option to just press a key and continue. Try it. (Can't hoit!!) I had a blue-screen problem with my old laptop and it always let me continue. (Finally figured out that Outlook was stomping on MS Fax, which I didn't even need. Removed MS Fax. Problem fixed.)

The Kernel BTW is the guts-of-the-guts of Windows. If it don't run, the PC don't run.

Fred I feel your pain. I'm FINALLY happy with Win95b. I'm comfortable with Win98SE. So of course, my new unit has XP, which I abhor. I'm about to experiment with Mozilla Firefox as a browser. I'll let you know. It's still Windows-based but is sheltered from the bulk of the Internet Explorer-targeted viruses (viri? Virusi? Virae?) and other such crawling nasties. But I just don't have the time or energy to learn my way around yet-another Operating System (Linux).

Sorry just saw my techi-ness above. "App" is geek-talk for application, re: a program.

Good luck to ya'.
Later,
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 07:18 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I've been using Firefox and netscape. Lately, I've gone to the Netscape 8 beta - works exactly like the Firefox but is a little faster. But unlike Netscape 4 - or 7, does not contain a mail program. Firefox has a seperate program you have to instal but is a stand-alone. Net 8 doesn't have mail either and you have to rely on Net 7.

I haven't used Internet Explorer in 10 years.

BTW - Once you get comfortable with Win XP, you won't go back to earlier versions. The Professional and Corporate editions will run all DOS and earlier Windows programs. the Home version of XP will not run DOS based programs and if you use RoadRunner, you will go mad with the constant problems. They say they are fixing the roblems -- yeah right!
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 08:11 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I used to get the blue screen of death frequently when I had PCs with Netscape as a browser. I also got "Netscape has committed an illegal action and will be shut down" more often than I got mail. I got these whether I used Netscape as my browser or not. With this last PC, I told the tech dudes at the computer store if they bundled Netscape into my new computer I was gonna commit an illegal act of my own. I cherry picked everything I wanted on it, made them exclude Netscape and all gaming except a few card games for visitors to enjoy, and have had no problems for three years. Except Outlook Express stopped working and trapped important stuff in the folders.

Fred, friends who have satellite internet run linux just fine, at least here in the boonies of Kansas and Nebraska.
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Todd Hunter
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Posted on Thursday, May 19, 2005 - 04:20 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Olen has translated for everyone...the following is in conversational English:
""Blue Screen of Death" means that some app on your machine has stomped on the memory space allocated to some other app."

Translated into tech-ese, you get my original statement:
"Generally (at least I believe) the reason people get the blue screen of death is because of memory allocation problems."


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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 10:00 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Fred,
Linux should work, but perhaps your local tech boys are not familiar enough with it.

If you don’t like Wintel, perhaps you could also consider a Mac.
There are no conversion problems as far as I have experianced. You can import and export Word for Windows documents with the software that comes with it.
And burn CD’s, play MP3, watch DVD’s, internet, mail, even program if you like, and much more with the software that is already installed. (UNIX based)
Actually the first time that all my software is legal, I have to admit...

I’m still pretty satisfied with my tiny and silent “lunchbox”
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Posted on Friday, May 20, 2005 - 01:49 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thank you to both Todd and Olen. Maybe I can print out those posts and hand them to my boss explaining that dropping a little bit of cash for a little bit of memory could save me 2 hours of fighting the reboot error every time my system crashes......


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