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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 09:16 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Had my gall bladder sucked out last week. (It was full of "sludge" and caused a recent stint in the ICU with pancreatitis.)

Any hints or tips on what to expect in my gall-bladder-less future would be greatly appreciated. What foods should I avoid? etc etc

It's a breeze so far but then I'm flying on percoset all the time and that may color my perception.

Just wondered if someone could clue me on what's coming down the road.
(Guess I'll have to give up barbequed ribs.)

Later,
Olen A
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Tom Elkins
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 10:32 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I have no clue, except that it probably would be better to consult your doctor instead of this group of opinionated folks. Incidentally, I notice that you and I are both Hsympothai Members. What in hell is that? Is it contagious?
Tom Elkins
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Gloria Marlow
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 11:23 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

My mom had her gallbladder out seven years ago and there hasn't been any change at all in what she can eat, do, etc. As a matter of fact, she was so sick from it for a year or two before they finally figured out what was wrong with her, that all the change was that she just felt much, much better than she had in a long while.
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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 11:31 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks Tom.
I fully intend to consult my Dr.
Just wanted to hear some anecdotal info from folks who've been there.

I don't make life-decisions on others' anecdotes. I use them to fill in the shadows and texture of what my Dr has to say. I approach medicos as hired consultants, so I listen to them. But they're not gods, so I also listen to the experience of others. Then I mash it all together for a fuller and more well-rounded picture.

Hsympothai Membership sounds pretty cool. Do we get a prize? I just turned 51 recently and I'm prime for a new sports car. A topless red convertible maybe, with a topless red-head to navigate??? I'll have to ask my wife first, of course.

My wounds are hurting. Time for more Percoset.

Later,
Olen A
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Tom Elkins
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 12:18 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Olen -

Everyone should have a convertible (and a swimming pool) once in his life. But once is enough. I would gladly forego both for the woman. Hair color not important. My oldest son will be 50 in April (and I will be 75), and my wife left me three years ago. So I'm ready.
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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 06:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks for the info Ms Gloria.
I must say though that I haven't had long-term problems like others I hear of. Got hit with what they called "sudden and acute ideopathic pancreatitis". My Gastro doc said "ideopathic-that means I'm an idiot and I don't know what caused it". He finally figured it out once he got me to a place with newer diagnostic equipment.
Your report gives me hope that I won't have to change too much. Hell, might even finally lose weight.

Mr. Tom- I KNOW I'm fulla crap and just dreaming. My wife said NO anyway. I CAN'T get a new pet. Not even if it follows me home and I wash it and feed it and everything. But if things change, the second redhead I find I'll direct your way.
As for a pool, I'm MUCH too lazy for that.

Later,
Olen A
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Sunday, January 22, 2006 - 06:30 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Olen,
Hope you recover fully and soon. I recommend a lot of tacos!

Tom,
I had Hsympothai once and it itched like crazy. Mix up some mustard and cow manure and cover your private parts with it. Works every time!


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Kevin Yarbrough
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:04 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Olen, you won't have to change your diet at all. Nursing student here with a wife who had her's removed. Your gall bladder is just a receiving duct for bile from your liver, nothing more. They take it out and the bile is just dumped straight into your stomach. You might have some more acid reflux, but I'm not really to sure on that. Your gall bladder is like your appendix, it doesn't do anything but cause you problems.
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 09:25 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Olen,
Had mine taken out about 1992 after about 3 weeks with a terrible "flu", and being so sick I couldn't think straight, or so I thought. I was flagging at that time and working outside in the winter cold and also thought that I had come down with Plurisy but went to the doctors and he took one look at me and sent me straight to the scanner for sonogram which showed my gallbladder to be the size of a small baseball or large golfball. Next thing was emergency surgery, two days later. I was 52 at time, seems to be about that age that the majority of gallbladders give out, if they are going to do it at all.

The best thing that I can tell you is that overall effects were minimal, I was up three days later, working four days after the surgery, wearing jeans, which as you know were a slight bit uncomfortable, but I'm tough. My diet hasn't change significantly in many ways, and I did have one plus. I had always been lactose intolerant, and I thought that I was just having problems digesting milk products for the years 5 to 7 prior to my surgery. Turns out that some of those problems went away or abated slightly after the surgery. I am still lactose intolerant, but not as severely feeling the pain I used to whenever I ate something loaded with milk products. So, sometimes there is a good side to that surgery. My surgery was laproscopic, so I wasn't cut wide open, just had three little holes put into my torso at different spots so they could get their camera and tools in and the huge stone out.

In most cases, you will notice a few differences, but overall, it won't be that hard to live without your gallbladder. Just take it as a new wrinkle in your life and adjust to what you body tells you to do. If you would like, you can write to me, (email) and I will go a bit more indepth with you about all of it, but it is something that you can live with with just a few minor adjustments in your life.
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Joyce Scarbrough
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

FWIW, my 5-year-old nephew had to have his gall bladder out (the youngest patient any of the doctors around here had ever known to need it) and he was riding his bike two days after surgery. Just thought I'd make you feel really old and wimpy!

Seriously, hope you have a complete and speedy recovery.

Toyce

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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 12:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

No Idea Olen, still got mine.

What do they do with the removed gall bladders?
Do you get to take it home for on the mantle piece?
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 01:21 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

actually Harry,
the gallbladder is a sac, made of tissue which in some cases can break open and leak bile into the system. My sac was getting ready to split, but hadn't at that time. They took out the stone that was causing the sac to get bigger and ready to split, but had to remove the gallbladder sac at the same time, because the stone was so large. I have a tape of the surgery and the actual stone in my possession. It is in a little box that the doctor gave me.

Some people just have the stone removed or lasered and heat/split-crushed nowadays and the sac remains in the body to continue to do its job. Mine was beyond saving as it was already at that splitting point.
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 01:26 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

BTW, Olen,
I have BBQ'd ribs and batter dipped fih and french fries and chicken strips all the time, heavy on the bbq & hot mustard sauce. No problems here to report. You might want to stay away from brussel sprouts though.....
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 01:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"What do they do with the removed gall bladders?
Do you get to take it home for on the mantle piece?"

You sell them on E-Bay for big bucks!
Bill Nelson

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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 03:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Thanks to all for the input.
Looks like I probably won't miss the little bugger.
But my diet is changing anyway. My wife was "instructed" that I need to lose weight IMMEDIATELY. I was in the room. The doc smiled at me... then talked to her.

I guess when a "mommy" is around we guys just can't get no respect. And he assumed that when she snaps her fingers, I'm gonna jump. Hah!! Little does he know. It takes TWO snaps around here before I jump. I stood my ground on that point.

I'm not allowed to put anything into my mouth except water or air, unless it gets her approval first. And she's taking this all SERIOUSLY!! She actually doesn't want me to eat myself to death!!

Damned gall bladder anyway.

Funtime's over I guess.

Thanks again for all the input. I'm making a reference file, but don't worry. I won't sue anyone who's wrong.
I'll find a way to blame the damned diet.

Later on,
Olen A
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Tom Elkins
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Posted on Monday, January 23, 2006 - 07:05 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Olen -

You need lessons in wife training. In my opinion, the master is Dr. Walter E. Williams. He has a web site. Don't remember the address, but it'll pop up on a search. This past Christmas he gave his wife a smaller snow shovel, because she was having back trouble with the large one.
Tom Elkins
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Olen Armstrong
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 08:52 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Mr Tom,
with all respect, I kinda like it the way it is. Besides I always compare the cost of things (lessons?) to the cost of a divorce. "Things" always lose.

Am I "whipped"? YOU BET!! AND LOVING IT!!!

It's been 32 years now so I'm doing SOMEthing right.
Besides it's a situation of my own creation. Got lymphoma in '98 and decided that I was done for. So I began forcing her to run things, so she'd know how, after I departed. We discovered that, when it comes to being in charge, she LIKES it with a huge capital L. She's damned good at it too. If I sounded whiney before, well, hell, I didn't plan on BEATING the cancer and I just like to whine.

So She's good at being the boss, she likes being the boss, I had my share early on and DON'T like being the boss. Sounds like a plan to me, even if I whine sometimes. Hell, I'd retire tomorrow and be her Kept-man if we could afford it. Any guys who question my macho can look at the pictures of my 5 kids and 11 grand-kids. My macho IS secure.

I'd bake brownies and iron skirts, no sweat. I'd even wear an apron, as long as she takes it off of me in that oh-so-special way.

I hereby publicly admit to being "whipped". Any time I doubt my chosen path, I just listen to Bill Withers' song "Use Me" and I'm reminded why it's a good thing.
"Darling you may be using me, but I SURE am using you...to do the things you do."

If you catch my drift...and I think...you...do.

Happily on my way to being a dirty-old-kept-man (minus one gall bladder),

Have a gud'un,
Olen A
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Tuesday, January 24, 2006 - 11:21 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

You dirty old devil. You faked the gall bladder thing, didn't you?
Good plan, lots of sympathy, a reason to whine and get waited on.
Good move, bud.
I'm working on a back problem myself. They're hard for the doc to pin down and you can have an attack any time hard work is on the horizon.
Ouch, there it goes again. Someone else will have to take the trash out now.
Before you carry that out, hon, would you hand me one of those cookies and bring me another pillow?
Bill Nelson

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