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Bill Nelson
Unity Member
Post Number:
2889
Registered: 10-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:13 am: |   |
Here's a scary thought!
McCain is elected President and has chosen Ron Paul as Veep.
McCain has heart attack; Paul is in charge of our country and Pelosi is
one step behind.
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Pacwriter
Unity Member
Post Number:
3129
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:49 am: | |
NAW - real scary is Hillary pres and Bill vice pres with Nancy and Harry as best buddies
http://www.perrycomer.com
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Pacwriter
Unity Member
Post Number:
3130
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 10:50 am: | |
TAX INCREASES - just sign over your paycheck
http://www.perrycomer.com
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Frank Mazur
Wandering Member
Post Number:
270
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 02:40 pm: | |
Nah, the scariest is you guys still don't get it!
3-dollar gas. Writers' strike. Read a great book by F. E. Mazur.
SPINE
THE BUCKSELLER
"A BIGGER CASE" |
Harry Simenon
Unity Member
Post Number:
1757
Registered: 10-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 04:05 pm: | |
Elected?
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Stephen Lodge
Wisdom Member
Post Number:
626
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 05:35 pm: | |
"... the scariest is you guys still don't get it!"
Get what. Frank? That with Hillary or Obama there's no way to stop this country from becoming socialist? Yeah ... that IS scary!
http://www.stephenlodge.com
Novels by Stephen Lodge:
"Charley Sunday's Texas Outfit!"
"Nickel-Plated Dream"
"Shadows of Eagles"
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Joyce Scarbrough
Unity Member
Post Number:
1224
Registered: 03-2004
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 09, 2008 - 07:31 pm: | |
After the past eight years, nothing scares me!
~Joyce Sterling Scarbrough
True Blue Forever
ISBN 0-9722385-9-X
Different Roads
ISBN 0-9722385-3-0
Authors Ink Books
http://www.authorsinkbooks.com
Read the first chapters: http://www.authorsden.com/joycelscarbrough1
Waste time on Joyce's Blog: http://joycescarbrough.blogspot.com
Watch the trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kztz5e3XZeo |
Steven Lee Harris
Hunger Member
Post Number:
59
Registered: 09-2007
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:12 pm: | |
Hasn't Hillary served her eight years?  |
Harry Simenon
Unity Member
Post Number:
1758
Registered: 10-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 12:32 pm: | |
Perhaps there might be a small difference between a corrupt form of communism and a touch of sensible socialism Stephen, like for example the Nordic nations like Finland, Sweden and Norway have. They do pretty well and are very pleasant to live in. Finland stinks for the corrupt though: it is the least corrupt nation in the world.
But don't worry, I don't believe you have socialst candidates in the US? And can it really be any worse than the last eight years? That will be quite a task I believe... |
Fred Dungan
Unity Member
Post Number:
2020
Registered: 10-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 05:34 pm: | |
Sensible socialists are like compassionate conservatives -- the only time that they function in that capacity is when they are being interviewed. Presidente Salvador Allende of Chile was a sensible socialist and look what happened to him.
http://www.fdungan.com/bushwhacked.htm |
Stephen Lodge
Wisdom Member
Post Number:
627
Registered: 06-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 08:21 pm: | |
"And can it really be any worse than the last eight years?"
Tell me, Harry ... just how bad were the last eight years?
http://www.stephenlodge.com
Novels by Stephen Lodge:
"Charley Sunday's Texas Outfit!"
"Nickel-Plated Dream"
"Shadows of Eagles"
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Pacwriter
Unity Member
Post Number:
3131
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 08:30 pm: | |
Two things to keep in mind about the last eight years
(1) The anger level by half the population of the USA was 100%
(2) The media darlings loved to push that anger level higher so it would not die
down even when other stories were bigger
http://www.perrycomer.com
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
3190
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:34 pm: | |
as far as the last eight years go, here is what Jay Leno has to say:
Very interesting perspective by Jay Leno...
I hope you will all read to the end. Jay Leno puts it into perspective and makes us think about the pathetic negativity. That's right, Jay Leno!!
Jay Leno wrote this; it's the Jay Leno we don't often see....
"The other day I was reading Newsweek magazine and came across some poll data I found rather hard to believe. It must be true, given the source, right?
The Newsweek poll alleges that 67 percent of Americans are unhappy with the direction the country is headed, and 69 percent of the country is unhappy with the performance of the President. In essence, 2/3's of the citizenry just ain't happy and want a change.
So being the knuckle dragger I am, I started thinking, "What are we so unhappy about?" Is it that we have electricity and running water 24 hours a day, 7 days a week?
Is our unhappiness the result of having air conditioning in the summer and heating in the winter?
Could it be that 95.4 percent of these unhappy folks have a job?
Maybe it is the ability to walk into a grocery store at any time, and see more food in moments than Darfur has seen in the last year?
Maybe it is the ability to drive from the Pacific Ocean to the Atlantic Ocean without having to present identification papers as we move through each state?
Or possibly the hundreds of clean and safe motels we would find along the way that can provide temporary shelter?
I guess having thousands of restaurants with varying cuisine from around the world is just not good enough.
Or could it be that when we wreck our car, emergency workers show up and provide services to help all, and even send a helicopter to take you to the hospital.
Perhaps you are one of the 70 percent of Americans who own a home. You may be upset with knowing that in the unfortunate case of a fire, a group of trained firefighters will appear in moments and use top notch equipment to extinguish the flames thus saving you, your family and your belongings.
Or if, while at home watching one of your many flat screen TVs, a burglar or prowler intrudes, an officer equipped with a gun and a bullet-proof vest will come to defend you and your family against attack or loss.
This all in the backdrop of a neighborhood free of bombs or militias raping and pillaging the residents. Neighborhoods where 90 percent of teenagers own cell phones and computers.
How about the complete religious, social and political freedoms we enjoy that are the envy of everyone in the world? Maybe that is what has 67 percent of you folks unhappy.
Fact is we are the largest group of ungrateful, spoiled brats the world has ever seen. No wonder the world loves the U.S., yet has a great disdain for its citizens. They see us for what we are. The most blessed people in the world who do nothing but complain about what we don't have, and what we hate about the country instead of thanking the good Lord we live here.
I know, I know. What about the President who took us into war and has no plan to get us out? The President who has a measly 31 percent approval rating? Is this the same President who guided the nation in the dark days after 9/11?
The President that cut taxes to bring an economy out of recession? Could this be the same guy who has been called every name in the book for succeeding in keeping all the spoiled ungrateful brats safe from terrorist attacks?
The Commander-In Chief of an all-volunteer army that is out there defending you and me? Did you hear how bad the President is on the news or talk show? Did this news affect you so much, make you so unhappy you couldn't take a look around for yourself and see all the good things and be glad?
Think about it...are you upset at the President because he actually caused you personal pain OR is it because the "Media" told you he was failing to kiss your sorry ungrateful behind every day.
Make no mistake about it. The troops in Iraq and Afghanistan have volunteered to serve, and in many cases may have died for your freedom. There is currently no draft in this country. They didn't have to go.
They are able to refuse to go and end up with either a "general" discharge, an "other than honorable" discharge or, worst case scenario, a "dishonorable" discharge after a few days in the brig.
So why then the flat-out discontentment in the minds of 69 percent of Americans? Say what you want, but I blame it on the media. If it bleeds, it leads; and they specialize in bad news. Everybody will watch a car crash with blood and guts. How many will watch kids selling lemonade at the corner? The media knows this and media outlets are for-profit corporations. They offer what sells, and when criticized, try to defend their actions by "justifying" them in one way or another. Just ask why they tried to allow a murderer like O.J. Simpson to write a book about "how he didn't kill his wife, but if he did he would have done it this way"...Insane!
Stop buying the negativism you are fed everyday by the media. Shut off the TV, burn Newsweek, and use the New York Times for the bottom of your bird cage. Then start being grateful for all we have as a country. There is exponentially more good than bad.
We are among the most blessed people on Earth, and should thank God several times a day or at least be thankful and appreciative.
"With hurricanes, tornados, fires out of control, mud slides, flooding, severe thunderstorms tearing up the country from one end to another, and with the threat of bird flu and terrorist attacks, "Are we sure this is a good time to take God out of the Pledge of Allegiance?"
Jay Leno
2007
There are so many people that need to read this and grasp the truth of it all. Along the same vien, to all who say that we have been having a very bad last eight years, I would like to say "Kiss Mine"..... as not one of you really has a clue, do you??? Our life is NOT bad at all, even though we have had a war that has been going on for a long time, we lose more people every YEAR on the highways in this country or in drive-by shootings in violence infested areas of our own cities, than we have lost in all of the six years in Iraq trying to save another country from all the bad that imperils the world at large. Get a life for christ sakes, and quit complaining when stuff happens, just do something about it and stand up and be men and women who will be tall and overcome.
Claudia
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
3191
Registered: 06-2002
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 10, 2008 - 09:57 pm: | |
As far as the politicios go, I don't want to see ANY DEMOCRAT get the ticket, nor do I want McCain to get it, I am so sick at being that undecided, but you have to look at the crop to find the best of a very sad lot. We lost one of the best when Romney pulled out and we lost another viable candidate with Thompson calling out and then no one pushing Gingrich to go in and step up, and I am undecided about whether to vote for one of the group that has been shoved down our throats, and I don't want Socialism, no matter how "sensible" it is, under any circumstances, at all, and I can't stomach the thought that after 300+ years, our great country has come to this, as it seems like a death knell to me, but I will vote and try to put the person into office that will do the best for us he can, even if it is not the best person. Personally, I think Bush has really done a great job in the Presidency, and I hate it when everyone lands on his head with talons outstretched and ready to claw him to death. You just try to be President for one month and see how many obstacles you overcome, I personally dare any one of you.....
Bush has done a far better job than many can possibly ever understand, because some of you only look at the immediate. We are not kneeling on a rug facing Mecca 7 times a day, are we???? Smell the roses, for Gods sake. Go ahead and take umbrage at what I am saying, but think things over before you cast stones. How bad do we really have it, and when you are thinking about it all, remember that the Mortgage and Repo market is the fault of the greedy people who wanted to buy bigger, more expensive homes than they could afford and the banks/mortgage companies went along with the game all the while trying to stick it to the people who were greedy by raising the loan rates. That was NOT done by the President. Most of our problems are our own fault, either through our greed or our consumption, much of each is not needed for/by anyone except our own ego..... We don't all need Ipods, the newest cell phones, the lastest computer, the newest car, the biggest TV screen, the biggest house on the block. Think about it before you throw that stone. Most of the rest of the world doesn't even have 1/10th of what we call normal, let alone what we "think" we need.
Claudia
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Harry Simenon
Unity Member
Post Number:
1759
Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 08:53 am: | |
Realizing I’m a bit naughty for responding outside this forum’s guidelines regarding political topics I strongly feel the need to state my point anyway: for the record only. My name pops up here in a google name search, so I think it is important to state my position. And then I shut up about it.
Sure the average US citizen is well off compared to many other nations. But I wasn’t talking about the life of Americans.
I seriously think those were a sad eight years regarding innocent, mainly Iraqi, deaths (well over a million!) and misery, human rights issues like torturing innocent people, injustice and plain lying to the people of America and the rest of the world. Plus a $9.2 trillion debt and going up, compared to $5.7 going down eight years ago.
Did Bush prevent you from Islam? Perhaps; but at most in the sense that he also did a good job preventing you from invading Martians and stampeding pink elephants.
I actually believe that the actions of this government seriously increased and stimulated terrorism and that these past eight years will cause trouble for many years to come. In short: blowback. It drives a wedge between normal people, be it Christians or Muslims, so that idiotic fundamentalists at both sides get their chance.
Anyway: this administration sure made the history books, no doubt about that. I’m afraid that the next might very well be more of the same.
I realize this sounds completely silly to you, but the biggest danger I see at this point in time is another holocaust, with this time the Muslims as victims. It is up to you to contribute to that or do something to stop it!
It gives me little hope for civilization. |
Bill Nelson
Unity Member
Post Number:
2891
Registered: 10-2002
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:45 am: | |
Harry,
Too many people (like you) see the glass as half (or less) empty and absolutely refuse to think any other way.
In America, every single presidency (without exception) has had its dark side. Why? because 49% were unhappy with whomever was elected and whine and cry for four to eight years. Under any and all administrations, great progress has been made. Sure, it may be one step backward and two forward, but none have been as good or bad as their opponents or allies would try to suggest.
The world will survive and continue to move on,Harry. The Bush administration has not ruined the world as the left suggest.
Knock off the doom and gloom. Move forward in a positive direction.
As to what the Nordic nations do, we don't care.If socialism works for them, cool. This is America. We aren't bent in that direction.
If any of you saw "Extreme Makeover" last night, that young Marine said more
about the American spirit than ten of the current politicians combined! He has experienced first hand what freedom cost in this world of today, not from a comfortable couch in front of a TV set.
God bless the USA. |
Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
3193
Registered: 06-2002
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 09:52 am: | |
Bill, I watched it from start to finish (and I never ever watch that program) simply because of his honesty and being from where he was from (Iraq) and the losing of his wife and raising his four kids all by himself. Totally deserving of the whole makeover. Totally humbled by all the attention. It was a great show. And one that NOT ONE of the current crop of Democratic so-called leaders would ever understand.
Claudia
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Harry Simenon
Unity Member
Post Number:
1760
Registered: 10-2003
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 12:43 pm: | |
It has little to do with being a Democrat or Republican, but everything with being a criminal or not. |
Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
3194
Registered: 06-2002
Rating: N/A
Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 02:03 pm: | |
BUSH IS NOT A CRIMINAL and neither is the better majority of the people he has in his Administration. Get over it and quit listening to the spin media. They have an agenda that is from the far Leftist and Socialist thinking type of Government that you espouse. Our Government has not tortured many (as in human rights violations) of "innocent" people, nor have we been "totally responsible" for the suicide bombers who killed the million (your number) of Iraqi's during the Religious and Fundamentalist problems that have been going on over there. Get over it and find somewhere else to rag on over the problems that this nasty nation have done to the world. We (the people of this country and the Country itself, as well as our Government per se', no matter who we put into office or take out of the running) are not that bad, or else, practically anyone who has the ability to get here would not want to be here. Yes, there are many of us who have definite ideas about who should be running this country, as it is with any family when it comes time to take charge, for a few minutes or a few years, we want and are entitled by birth o citizenship to be able to have a voice in that decision. Your country will go on much as before, no matter what happens here.
And just who do you think you are spouting off to that is important enough in your life to state that Bush or his Administration are or are not CRIMINALS?? What difference does it make to you anyway?? It is not your Country, and because of that, you really should not be throwing accusations like that around. Unless, of course, you have incontrovertible proof, not just stuff from the internet, that will stand up in a court of law or the United Nations, (which I would NOT pay any attention to, even if you did, for they are the seat of corruption and criminality) or the Geneva Conventions, and NATO and all the other agencies in the world to back you up. In other words, what really gets action is bullet proof truth, without all the hype of the liberal press and its slant. Unless you have something like that, don't state it is a matter of Criminality on the part of our Administration or President. That is much like us stating that your Prime Minister is guilty of any form of criminality, without having the actual proof at hand and I am sure you would demand it to be put up or shut up. Or like saying that the Queen of England is a criminal, how do you think that would sit with that country, if you stated it publicly on the internet for all the world to see without having actual incontrovertible proof?? I think you are off/over your limit on this one......
Claudia
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Harry Simenon
Unity Member
Post Number:
1761
Registered: 10-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 02:31 pm: | |
Well, I'm pretty good at crossing limts here and there, but I can't understand this adoration for a politician? (Certainly not for Bush, and certainly not after all what happened...)
Is this administration really worth defending Claudia?
Sometimes you vote for someone who does not turn out the way you expected, quite human I would think, and not your fault. |
Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
3195
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, February 11, 2008 - 02:42 pm: | |
Personally, I feel and believe with my whole heart that BUSH and his Administration are not the evil that you and so many want to portray as badly as you all can. IF I were given the ability to, I would vote for him again in a nanosecond. That is not possible, so I am looking and hoping to find the best possible replacement for him.
And I totally believe that when the history is written and all is said and done, BUSH will prevail..... and be shown for the good man that he honestly is.
Claudia
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