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Deejay (Unregistered Guest)
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Posted From: 24.0.45.234
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Wednesday, January 21, 2004 - 06:09 pm: |   |
Can someone please explain to me what a fourth tier agent is? I read a comment on another message board that referred to a certain agent as one and I haven't a clue as to what it is.
Deejay |
C. E. Winterland
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
1327
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 06:11 am: | |
Interesting one.
Tier systems generally indicate a kind of distance from the source. In a supply system, a second tier supplier is the supplier of the raw material to the manufacturing supplier of an item (who then supplies the OEM).
Not quite sure how to work out four tier levels to a literary agenting enterprise though...
CEW |
Deejay (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, January 22, 2004 - 10:27 am: | |
Thanks, C.E. - I thought it was a bit confusing myself. I think the big agents like William Morris, etc. are first tier, then whoever is second, and so on. The agent in question, Jennifer Flannery, was considered fourth tier because she is a small agency (I think it was in Iowa or Idaho or someplace like that) who only reps children's literature. I don't think that's a bad thing myself, but whoever did the tier ranking must have.
Deejay |
Steven Shrewsbury
Wisdom Member
Post Number:
632
Registered: 04-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 08:09 pm: | |
Any of ya'all got an agent and have ya deployed one?
Just askin' because I haven't. When I tried to scare one up recently I had no takers for a fant novel. Should I have asked for general representation...since I do so many different things?
www.stevenshrewsbury.com |
John Laurence Robinson
Wisdom Member
Post Number:
529
Registered: 01-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 08:24 pm: | |
Shrews...yep, I'm on my third, and this one's a keeper. She sold my MS last July.
John |
D.R.
Wandering Member
Post Number:
106
Registered: 05-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:51 am: | |
Steven,
You are welcome to visit my site at http://www.literaryagent.2ya.com or give me a call at (1) 480-474-8211.
I keep getting queries from Chicago, but the people email me and never respond back.
Anyways, John, that's great! Glad to hear you have an agent. So many writers struggle to find a good one.
- Donny -
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Bill Nelson
Wandering Member
Post Number:
107
Registered: 10-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 08:29 am: | |
Steve,
I've had two. One, a real loser. The second, good, but not very motivated.
Presently, I have mixed emotions about needing one.
You don't need an agent to submit to many places. I think that if you start selling a couple and get into different kinds of contracts, an agent or business manager would then become important.
bn |
Nancy Mehl
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
1696
Registered: 08-2001
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 11:52 am: | |
I've had two. The first was a lovely British gentleman whom I adored - but who couldn't sell an igloo to an Eskimo.
I have much more faith in the agent I have now. Of course, I shared her with John and he sold a book. I haven't.
Must be some kind of celestial joke....
I'm not laughing.....
Okay, I am. (S)
Kinda.
Actually - I'm quite thrilled for John and really believe my agent will sell something for me. She also believes it. Boy, that makes a real difference in your confidence.
I'll get my new novel to her as soon as I'm through with all this editing... Oh, wait a minute, that was another thread altogether.
(But at least I never missed a book signing.)
Did I happen to mention that I have "dry socket" and am on medication????? Is this more information than anyone needed?
Nancy |
Donna Brown
Hunger Member
Post Number:
54
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 12:25 pm: | |
Thanks for all the input here. Nancy, what in the world is "dry socket?" Does it have to do with a tooth or an eyeball?
Deej |
Laurel Johnson
Unity Member
Post Number:
2941
Registered: 01-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:17 pm: | |
Ick. Dry socket. Not fun. I think it is a dental problem, DJ. Sorry to hear that Nancy.
I had a good New York agent 20 years ago. I've told the story on other threads so won't repeat it here. I had one agent in recent years. She sent my first book to PA. Last year she changed her address and did not notify me. Had to go thru PA to find her. When I emailed wondering what happened, mentioning I owed her royalty percentages, she told me she did not care any more if anyone paid her any money or not. I took her at her word.
I queried two different agencies about my second book. One agent said I told about my characters but did not show them. The second said I did a MARVELOUS job of showing him my characters but it was not the kind of book he represented.
That ended the agent hunt for me, for good. I'll either get published without one or not get published at all. Life's too short for double talk. |
Joyce Scarbrough
Hunger Member
Post Number:
62
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 01:35 pm: | |
Nancy, I'll let you slide on the repeated ribbing since you've got a dry socket. You have my utmost sympathy. Bad, bad, pain.
Toyce
True Blue Forever
Read the first chapter at http://www.authorsden.com/joycelscarbrough1
See the hunk at http://www.southernbelleauthor.com/joycepersonalpage
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Nancy Mehl
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
1698
Registered: 08-2001
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 02:02 pm: | |
Now Joyce, can't I get a little more mileage out of this? I mean, being in pain and all...
Deej,
I have no idea what dry socket is. But, thank God, the dentist only removed my tooth. Not my eye.
The second alternative would be much worse - almost as bad as missing your book signing....
Okay. That's it. I promise. (G)
Nancy |
Donna Brown
Hunger Member
Post Number:
55
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 04:03 pm: | |
Ha! Sorry, Nancy, but I'm glad the dentist did not take out your eye! I'm pretty sure it takes a different kind of doctor to do that, but, hey, if the dentist had accidentally taken out the eye instead of the tooth, that would be a pretty good reason to miss a book signing.
Deej |
Joyce Scarbrough
Hunger Member
Post Number:
63
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 08:44 pm: | |
That one slipped up on me, Nancy. I was just reading along all secure 'cause I thought you'd moved on past me in your post, and then WHAM! Blindsided me! 
Toyce
True Blue Forever
Read the first chapter at http://www.authorsden.com/joycelscarbrough1
See the hunk at http://www.southernbelleauthor.com/joycepersonalpage
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Nancy Mehl
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
1700
Registered: 08-2001
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, May 03, 2004 - 09:33 pm: | |
I'm done, Joyce. Really. I mean it.
Maybe....(G)
Nancy |
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