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F.E. Mazur (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 03:48 pm: |   |
I am putting the finishing touches on a short story, and I would like some comment from older contributors to the board on a particular item. In the story I mention the country "Sudan." Actually, an older character refers to it as "the Sudan."
I grew up in Western Pennsylvania and when that country was in the news, I remember it, perhaps erroneously, as being referred to as THE Sudan. Is the isogloss for this reference pretty much narrowed to my geographical upbringing? Or does this ring a bell to some of you living in other parts of the country?
I have not positively identified a location in the story, so that if the reference is too narrow, I will drop the 'the.' |
Laurel Johnson
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, July 25, 2004 - 03:55 pm: | |
I'm roughly of your generation, Frank, and a few years older than you. In High School Geography, and in news stories of that day, we called it The Sudan. |
Jennifer Lynn
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Same here Frank, and I'm in western Canada.
Jennifer Lynn
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Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Registered: 06-2002
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As far back as I can remember, it was called THE SUDAN in everything from high school history to Civics and Sr. Problems, and before that in all studies of History of the world.
I am a grad of '62 from the West, California, specifically. That's the way I remember it.
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F.E. Mazur (Unregistered Guest)
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 04:42 am: | |
Thank you all for your response. This wide geographical use of THE Sudan made me think there must be more to it than just something that cropped up in our speech, so I delved a bit further. What I eventually learned explains the THE. Before 1956 or thereabouts, Sudan was not a country, but a region of Africa, like THE Sahara. Ha, one learns something every day! Thanks again. |
LaurieAnne
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Registered: 12-2001
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 05:24 am: | |
Frank,
I don't know about regional speak regarding the country, but when referring to the country, I say "Sudan". Referring to the desert region, I state, "the Sudan desert." But then, I've never really been a conformist. LOL
LA
LaurieAnne
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Joyce Scarbrough
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Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 06:23 pm: | |
Frank, not only do I remember it being referred to as "The Sudan," I remember a wrestler from my childhood who was purported to have been from "The Sudan." 
Toyce
True Blue Forever
Read the first chapter at http://www.authorsden.com/joycelscarbrough1
See the hunk at http://www.southernbelleauthor.com/joycepersonalpage
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Bill Nelson
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Registered: 10-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 06:36 pm: | |
Joyce,
You obviously misunderstood.
He was from the Sedan vs. the Pickup.
bn |
Joyce Scarbrough
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192
Registered: 03-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 10:29 pm: | |
Oh, no. I remember distinctly, Bill. He was named Armand Hussein.
I've now revealed my deepest, darkest secret . . . I loved professional wrestling when I was a child. I have autographs and everything. 
Toyce
True Blue Forever
Read the first chapter at http://www.authorsden.com/joycelscarbrough1
See the hunk at http://www.southernbelleauthor.com/joycepersonalpage
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