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Gloria Marlow
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 08:14 pm: |   |
Does anyone know if religions who require(d) a sacrifice be made for sins (not Christianity) would use a certain dagger based on the sin itself or on any other basis?
Thanks, Gloria |
Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, October 10, 2004 - 10:48 pm: | |
haven't a clue, but interesting question. It seems to me that I remember something about a sarcaen (sp?) sword or blade that was used by the turks and Muslim or Islam religions abut the time of the birth of Christianity, but I don't know what the context was or if it was a specific reason for the use. the Samuri used a certain kind of blade for their ceremonies, but not sure what they were for, and the Druids did also, perhaps Steven might chime in on this, as he is well versed in that sort of thing.
Happy hunting, Gloria, keep us up to date on what you find, it is an intereting question you brought up......
Claudia |
Snarzler
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 03:14 am: | |
Ask on the NaNoWriMo forums. They have this one board you can ask ANYTHING on and you'll get good information. Something called the Plot Realism Q&A...(too lazy to look at the very early moment)
Anyone else going to try that madness this year? I'm a three year veteran and two year finisher.
Andrea the challenged
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Dennis Collins
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 03:32 am: | |
Claudia... I believe that you may be thinking of "The Saracen Blade," which was the title of a novel written by Frank Yerby (I think). I remember reading it back in the 50's and it was a book about the Crusades and I think it referred to the sword of Saladin.
I know that there have been many ceremonial or personalized knives and swords developed for specific purposes over the years (Excalibur) but I can't recall any that were designated as an instrument of religious justice. |
Kevin Yarbrough
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 07:12 am: | |
A lot of south american indian civilizations used daggers in sacrifices.
kevin |
Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 10:13 am: | |
Yes, Dennis,
that was the book I was thinking about, just couldn't put my memory on it. And it was about that blade, and at the time I did do some checking on the facts of the history of the blade and found them all to be related to the country and its surrounding areas and the tribes that inhabited it. (although I don't really think they were tribes, more nomadic groups). I read the book, probably about the same time as you did..... a very, very, very long time ago....
However, there were other books, from other authors, about the ceremonial aspects of baldes and swords throughout history. I have read a few of them, and they all escape me for some reason, but I do think that there was a significance to the blades and swords that some used.
Mary or Steven, come in please, you both would/should obviously know much more about this subject than I do.
Claudia |
Kevin Yarbrough
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:03 am: | |
Wiccans use a dagger called an athames, nine-inch daggers used at the high altar on sabbats. They are not used for sacrifices though.
There is also a Khanda, a dagger used in Sikhism. Not for sacrifices, I don't think.
The Aztecs used daggers for sacrifices.
"Tzompantli, or Skullrack built into a Sidewall
Spanish accounts from the time of the conquest describe Aztec ceremonies and rituals as having been incredibly bloodthirsty, with human sacrifices performed by cutting the live heart out of the victim's chest with a dagger. One account claims that there were 50,000 victims in a single ceremonial sacrifice. While the logistics of such an event seem unimaginable, there is clearly some truth to these stories. There are several of these typical Aztec skullracks, rectangular frameworks lined with rows of human skulls, plastered over and built into the architecture, in the archaeological area of the Templo Major."
Vaishaivites use krisses, but again, I don't know if they use it for sacrifices.
Yemeni males are given a "coming of age" dagger made with a Rhino horn for a handle.
Sorry I couldn't find many that used daggers to sacrifice with though.
Kevin |
Gloria Marlow
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 11:42 am: | |
Me either, Kevin. Thanks.
I suppose it really isn't integral to my story to give the reason the killer uses a dagger. The reason he kills is enough to get the point across, I think.
Thanks for the help everyone.
gloria |
mark dirschel
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, October 11, 2004 - 12:32 pm: | |
http://www.kalimunro.com/ritual_abuse.html
you could browse here and come to some of your own conclusions. i haven't seen anything to indicate separate daggers based on sin committed - i.e. 6-inch for stealing, or a 12-inch for blasphemy, etc.
- mark
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