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Todd Hunter
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 07:04 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I was just running through old crap on my hard drive from many years ago...and it just amazed me how utterly worthless most of it was...granted, it wasn't Atlanta Nights quality (at least I'd like to think so), but still......

Has anyone else ever looked through some of their (much) older work, and think to themselves, "did I actually write that"?
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Jennifer Lynn
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 07:32 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Yep... so I try not to look at old stuff.
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 07:33 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Oh yes. In fact....I deleted several things from my files not too long ago. A couple salvageable things popped up. One was a short story from back in my Home Health Nurse days. I submitted it to Cup of Comfort series for an anthology about Nurses and it has been accepted as a finalist. That does not mean it will be in the Cup of Comfort for Nurses book, but does have a chance I guess. I almost deleted it, then thought perhaps it was worth saving.

So be careful what you delete, Todd. :-)
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Todd Hunter
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Posted on Saturday, February 05, 2005 - 07:40 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I rarely delete anything...heh... :-)

Although some of the stuff I found wasn't the clean, wholesome, farm boy writing that I do now...


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Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 12:05 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I think I read your story about Bill Nelson's Adventures in Mechanics, Todd.

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Todd Hunter
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Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 07:11 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Fluid Mechanics?

I remember that story...poor Bill...
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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 12:53 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Todd,

I do that at least once a year. The benefit is that I can see that I actually HAVE improved. The not so beneficial part is when I think back and realize that I thought THAT stuff was the best I'd written. LOL.

I didn't look through too much last year. I was too busy working on some rewrites and editing, etc. However, I am just about ready to start peeking through some of the little bits that I have stored in my desk. I might actually be able to do something with them again.

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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Sunday, February 06, 2005 - 05:27 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I keep rewriting the older stuff. Again and again.
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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 03:17 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I regularly update the online edition of Bushwhacked. Needless to say, ebooks have it over print when it comes to making changes.

Technological changes come fast. Social changes take time. The days of print are numbered. If someone had told an ancient Egyptian that papyrus was on its way out, he would have laughed in their face. I compare print to the walking dead. Paper and ink will no doubt vanish within two or three generations. Look what has happened to newspapers. They sold better 50 years ago than they do today and few, if any of us, read them with the ardor that our parents did.

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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Friday, February 11, 2005 - 01:57 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Todd, not to interrupt your thread, but I must inject this hear for a wonderful PIF for Fred.

Granted, Fred. Newspapers have one heluva fight today (this coming from the Circulation Director of two separate newspapers). What with the advent of radio, followed quickly by television, then again by the internet, instant gratification is the hardest competition we face.

How do you convince someone that it's worth waiting for the newspaper when they can find the same information on the news, which shows throughout the day, look it up online, listen to the radio, etc.? How do you convince them that we have anything different to say than what they heard already throughout the day about that rollover on the 80-90 Toll Road?

For the longest time, that's the venue there was. You waited and got the paper the next day to find out what happened. Now, it's right there. Bam! More than you ever wanted to know. For, what was it?, three solid days without barely even a commercial break, we saw Dan Rather, Tom Brokaw, and other such TV News Anchors constantly showing the same images of the WTC even though they didn't really have any new information. Hell, we've reached a point in our societal evolution that some people are actually paranoid that they might miss some small update.

And what of our subscribers who struggle to read because they are losing their ability to see? Well, the computer allows them to enlarge the print so that they can still keep up with the news. A printed paper does not have that flexibility. There are so many obstacles to face, and I face those every single day. That's my job--face the struggles of selling the paper, and find ways to sell it even more than yesterday.

To that end, I think you may be right in part. I dread the thought of having books disappear forever, but in a matter of a few generations, that may very well happen.

HOWEVER, to that end as well, if you were to be selling an ebook rather than having it available for free on your website, regular updating would not be wise.

Okay, so I'm rambling.

And I shouldn't be. I have several hundred postcards to label and prep for mailing.

Later.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 08:35 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

I read several newspapers everyday - online. why subscribe if you can get the content free by just subscribing to the online? Sure the ads are a pain but I find the online ads less of a hassle than the printed version. Don't you hate to read part of story on page 5 then turn to page 20 and then on to page 35. In among the page turning are full page and half page ads.
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Posted on Tuesday, February 15, 2005 - 10:38 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Laurie Anne and Pac,

I assume you are talking about major market dailies....the little newspaper that I work for has great and loyal readers.

Not one scrap of national news. Most statewide reports have to have a local connection to make our pages. We do have pictures from all the school events, the greatest local sports coverage - in fact, just about anyone killing a deer or catching a sizeable fish is newsworthy. And a brand of "hashin' it out" local political commentary that Washington could do with a lot more of.

And you know what? The pictures outweigh the type and the faces in them all seem to be smiling.

We don't have circulation woes, it just keeps climbing even though the area is economically depressed. As anyone moves away they get a mail subscription, they know they'll feel right at home once a week through our pages. And we send copies to nearly all fifty states each week. I have circulation cards from the 1950s that I still update each year and almost daily someone calls to give a subscription as a gift to a friend or family.

The high cost of paper and expense of maintaining an old press in an area where advertising dollars are getting scarce is a challenge but keeping readers from turning to ther media is not...I can assure you of that.
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LaurieAnne
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Posted on Wednesday, February 16, 2005 - 08:28 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

CJ,

By your post, I presume that you are a fellow circulator at a weekly.

If you don't mind, I would love to email you privately to garner some ideas. I have my subscription to Circulation Idea Service, as well as my new boss being a former CD, but every bit of help is well appreciated. I am the CD at both a 7,000 daily as well as a 2,000 weekly plus 2 TMC's and other minor publications. I'm getting to be an old hand at the daily, but the weekly is a different venture for me.

If you are open to such, please contact me at news_circ@yahoo.com. (Because this board automatically creates a link where an email is typed, it is difficult to see that there is an underscore between news and circ in there.)

Thanks,
LA
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F.E. Mazur
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Posted on Thursday, February 17, 2005 - 10:41 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

In a recent New York Times Book Review is an essay by Stephen Johnson regarding advanced software that will help to inspire writers and see them to the making of new associations. This software, which installs on your personal computer, would do for you and your personal library what Google does with all the libraries of articles and materials that are out there for anyone’s interest.

Johnson writes: “These programs…share two remarkable properties: the ability to interpret the meaning of text documents; and the ability to filter through thousands of documents in the time it takes to have a sip of coffee.”

Software such as this will advise against the discarding of any earlier writings. You might have written a gem of a description, which you’ve forgotten about. You might have toyed with an idea ten years ago that suddenly has some bearing on a piece you are currently working. And if a new idea or direction comes to mind, Johnson wonders who is responsible? Himself or the software? In the end he writes, “The idea was a true collaboration, two very different kinds of intelligence playing off each other, one carbon-based, the other silicon.”

The essay is titled “Tool for Thought” and can be found in the 1/30 issue.
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