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Dennis Collins
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1435
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 11:04 am: |   |
Some agents request a synopsis along with your query. A few ask for a 5-10 page synopsis and others only want 3-5.
I'm not entirely sure that I understand the function of a synopsis but I view it as a short description of the story and it's plot; not necessarily the characters.
In my personal case, my series has three protagonists and it there's a strong chance that trying to condense three personalities while making them seem dynamic would create a confusing paragraph or two. In the synopsis that I just finished, I chose to give prominance to just one of my main characters because I felt that he could support the story line while appearing vibrant.
Now I know that the characters are what carry a series and their importance can't be overstated but the question is, what am I trying to sell here?
When I query an agent, I'm fully aware of the fact that I'm given precious few words to state my case so I want to be sure that I'm dead-on target with my pitch.
Anybody here have any real experience along these lines? |
Pacwriter
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Post Number:
1827
Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 12:01 pm: | |
My understanding of the "getting published" process is limited. After all these years I feel I should know more than I do but the more I learn the more I find out "I don't know jack"
My latest understanding of "query" is make it sound like you have written the most wonderful book in the world and the world can't live without it!
the Synopsis - Jack Webb fashion - just the facts mam - who what when where and WHY!
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Jennifer Lynn
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Post Number:
1674
Registered: 03-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 05:43 pm: | |
Not only does the synopsis show that there is a beginning, middle and end to your story, but it also showcases your writing style. Or lack of, in some cases. If a query is wrought with spelling and grammatical errors, I tend to end my perusal right there. Why read a partial if the synopsis is crap? However, if the synopsis is written well and captures my attention, you can almost bet I'll want to see the full piece.
Sooo, there are lots of reasons for synopsis'. You are selling your story and you are selling yourself as a writer.
Jenn
Jennifer Lynn
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Dennis Collins
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Post Number:
1437
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 06:34 pm: | |
Ahhhh, but of course. The writing style!!! Thank you Jenn
Methinks that my synopsis had better get polished and polished, eh?
Didn't we have a board on here somewhere for posting stuff for critiques?
Another thought...
The person reading the synopsis doesn't know what the story is all about so I'd think it would be important that you show your ability to organize things in a logical progression. If they think that you've explained it clearly, it's got to be a plus.
And how about this?
If I think that my sub-plot or back story is a significant part of the book, should I include it as a strong segment of my synopsis? |
Claudia Turner VanLydegraf
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Post Number:
1930
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, February 25, 2005 - 08:11 pm: | |
I would definetly add a bit about it to show that you think it is important enough to have its own statement and/or paragraph or two. If you don't say anything about it at all, it means that you may have just thrown a sub-plot in as a filler. If it is an important part of why certain characters do certain things or are in certain places, then it should be elucidated upon. helps the reader understanad the pinning under the story and gives fuller, more rounded characters or reasons for events.
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cora morace
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Post Number:
75
Registered: 11-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 03:19 am: | |
I'd love to read some examples of well done synopsis...anyone want to post examples or give me links?
Thanks,
CJ |
F.E. Mazur
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Post Number:
15
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 05:16 am: | |
Something else to discover with regard to the person who's to receive your material. Are they asking for a summary synopsis or an outline synopsis? And the latter, mind you, does not mean that you use Roman numerals and the rest. But it is much more detailed than the first. |
Jennifer Lynn
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Post Number:
1677
Registered: 03-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 26, 2005 - 08:33 am: | |
Exactly Dennis. If you can't show things in a clear, logical sequence in your synopsis, then what makes the editor think you can do so in a complete manuscript? And if your backstory is that important, put a bit in but don't dwell on it. Just enough to keep things clear. I wouldn't put it as the main focus of your synopsis because you aren't selling the backstory, you're selling the main plot and that is what your synopsis should cover.
As for a summary synopsis or an outline synopsis, there isn't such a thing. It's either a synopsis or an outline. And yes, an outline can be point form instead of a narrative and generally the editor wants a lot more detail.
J
Jennifer Lynn
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F.E. Mazur
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Post Number:
17
Registered: 02-2005
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 05:44 am: | |
"As for a summary synopsis or an outline synopsis, there isn't such a thing. It's either a synopsis or an outline. And yes, an outline can be point form instead of a narrative and generally the editor wants a lot more detail."
—another reason to take advice from other writers, editors, etc. with a grain of salt. The words get thrown around a lot and mixed one to the other. I used the phrases I did because I've read them as such in hyped writers' books and in the written demands from some listed agents. But we're talking about the same thing, really. The confusion may have its roots in the word itself, which my Merriam-Webster traces back to the Latin and Greek, defined as "comprehensive view." Then in the the definitions for English usage it says "a condensed statement or outline."
Here's a site that might be useful to others:
http://www.fictionfactor.com/guests/synopsis.html |
Dennis Collins
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
1445
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, February 27, 2005 - 08:34 am: | |
Ever wonder why we as writers have to always make things so complicated? Especially for ourselves...
We fancy ourselves wordsmiths and we play with words when we are using them but sometimes hold others to very narrow windows of definitions.
POD/Traditional, Summary synopsis/outline synopsis, what's the difference?
I read this story one time that kinda addressed that. It was about this chick who had a boyfriend whose name was Montague and her folks just didn't like Montagues. She couldn't really see why specific labels were so important either. She says, "What's in a name? that which we call a rose By any other name would smell as sweet." (punctuation and capitalization are the authors and not mine. How'd ya' like to edit this dude?)
Guess what I'm saying is that I don't really care what you call it. I am more interested in the meat of the message and I believe I understood Frank's point quite well. It's good feedback... All of it. |
Todd Hunter
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Post Number:
2300
Registered: 02-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Friday, March 11, 2005 - 10:08 pm: | |
I recently ran across this author's website, where he had posted up outlines and synopses from some of his published (and un-published) work...it was rather interesting stuff...myself, I think I'm going to work on an outline for one of the books I'm working on, and see if that helps jog the brain cells a little...
http://www.sfwriter.com/ouindex.htm
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My synopsis is a condensation of the book. I tell the beginning with emphasis on the hero's conflict, high points of the plot in the middle, and finish by telling the end. It's written in the present tense, third person - no matter how the book itself is written.
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Fred Dungan
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Post Number:
937
Registered: 10-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, March 13, 2005 - 07:10 pm: | |
"see if that helps jog the brain cells a little..."
Short-circuit the synapses and out comes a synopsis. Proof positive that a pun is the lowest form of humor.
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Todd Hunter
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Post Number:
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Registered: 02-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 01:45 pm: | |
Bringing this back up to the top, since I'm now preparing a synopsis as part of a query...
This one should be interesting, since the entire query (including synopsis) should be less than two pages...yikes.
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Dennis Collins
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Post Number:
1626
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 03:08 pm: | |
This is scary... I've never posted my work in front of all you guys before but here is my (long) synopsis. Take your shots but please...
Be kind.
For Thine is the Power
Joe Pellerito’s father had been a powerful figure in Detroit’s organized crime family. He came to the organization as a young attorney with a knack for persuasive negotiation and it carried him to the top as a trailblazing leader. Abandoning gang violence in favor of mediation and viewing mob activities as a business, he almost single handedly moved the family into the new millennium looking very much like a legitimate enterprise. The extremely profitable Detroit operation became a nationwide model for other families.
Joe worshipped his father and when the old man died, Joe assumed that he would be embraced by the family and welcomed in to a respected place in the mob. When it didn’t happen, Joe felt shunned. Being in the family has been his lifelong dream.
Relegated to the role of truck dispatcher in a gravel hauling company owned by the Anthony Falzone syndicate, the discontent simmers and continues to trouble Joe until he devises a plan that will demonstrate his dedication, his awesome courage, and his unmatched ferocity.
From a list of Detroit Police Officers who had hindered or throttled mob efforts, Joe selects his targets and launches his scheme. He methodically assassinates three cops in a single morning and then calmly returns to his office to wait for the reaction from the mob boss.
*****
Detroit Police Detectives Otis Springfield and Albert McCoy are the first on the scene of a cop killing in an alley behind a Detroit bar. Springfield is scheduled for promotion to Lieutenant tomorrow and will be taking over the homicide division at the first precinct. While the detectives are gathering evidence at the crime scene, a call comes in reporting the murder of a second policeman, and then another. The officers are stunned. A sizable task force with Otis Springfield at the lead takes to the field in search of the killer. Reserve officers are called in to insure that every policeman has a partner and that no one will be on the street alone. A lack of physical evidence at any of the three locations tells investigators that these had been carefully planned executions yielding very few clues and will be extremely difficult to unravel but allowing the murder of three police officers to go unsolved is unthinkable.
The investigation suddenly becomes a secondary priority for Otis Springfield when his mother suffers a massive stroke. Leaving police operations in the hands of his trusted partner Albert McCoy, Otis rushes to the hospital to be at his mother’s side during her final hours. Otis is an only child and was raised in a fatherless home. His devotion to his mother is limitless and he stands by her hospital bed and holds her hand until he feels life slip from her body.
Preparing to bury his mother, Otis is looking through her jewelry box for her favorite broach when he comes across a military medal. An aunt tells Otis that the medal belonged to his father, won for heroism in the Second World War. Suddenly Otis holds a clue to his heritage in his hand. His father had always been a mystery, a forbidden subject and now he is on the threshold of discovering his roots. His aunt fills in a few details about how Otis’s father was a member of the famed Tuskegee Airmen and was killed in action, shot down while protecting American bombers during the closing days of the war. His body was buried at a military cemetery somewhere in Italy and no family member has ever visited the grave.
*****
A week has passed since the three cops were murdered and there is still no sign that the mob bosses have even made the connection of the fact that all three of the dead policemen had created problems for the organization. Joe is becoming impatient again. Why can’t these guys notice and start asking a few questions? Joe has made it a point to befriend one of the truck drivers at his dispatch office who has apparent high connections in the family and he hopes to hear something through him or maybe “Grunge” the driver’s dull-witted sidekick who seems to be looked on quite favorably by the mob.
The silence from the gangsters is maddening to Joe. Maybe they need another nudge, a little stronger this time. He goes back to his list of cops who have somehow impeded mob plans and chooses another target. This one’s name is Otis Springfield.
*****
Reserve Detroit Police Officer Michael O’Conner has set up a database to search for any common thread that might connect the three murdered policemen. The only name that occurs in all of their files is “Anthony Falzone,” the man reputed to be the boss of all organized crime in Detroit and surrounding areas. It’s a slim connection at best because Falzone’s name is likely to pop up in the reports of at least half of the cops in Detroit. But it’s the only lead they have and so Detective McCoy decides to follow it up. The visit to Falzone’s plush office in downtown Detroit yields little satisfaction for McCoy but it gets the mob boss thinking about the possibility of a maverick in his troops. Falzone puts his watchdogs to work. His ace in the hole is a man that nobody takes too seriously, a man with a clouded identity, his brain damaged younger brother, a man simply known as Grunge.
*****
Through conditions brought about by his own actions Joe Pellerito is forced to act before he’s fully prepared and his shotgun assassination attempt on Otis Springfield misses it’s mark. But Joe is being watched and now Anthony Falzone knows the identity of the man who is putting his entire organization at risk. He authorizes a hit and gives the task to two men that Joe trusts, the truck driver buddy and Grunge.
Joe is a very strong, young, and athletic man and proves to be more than the two mob soldiers can handle. He turns the tables and kills both the truck driver and Grunge. Now he must run for his life. Joe hops on a plane to Italy with the intent of hiding with relatives but when he learns that Grunge, one of the men he killed, was actually the younger brother of the powerful Anthony Falzone, he knows that his survival depends on being able to assume an entirely new identity. He contacts an old college friend to arrange the transformation.
The Power of the mob is far reaching and soon the network yields information about an American from Detroit hiding in Italy and seeking a whole new identity. Falzone and his top man swing into action.
*****
Detective McCoy knows that the Anthony Falzone crime empire owes its success to the fact that it does a very low profile business and disdains violence as a profit killer. Operating on the theory that there could be a malcontent in the organization, McCoy culls the name “Joe Pellerito” from Falzones employee records. McCoy knows that old Pete Pellerito was Falzone’s right hand man and now his son has a seemingly nowhere job at the bottom rung of the family business, It could be considered enough of a snub to incite some resentment. As he investigates Pellerito, he finds more and more signs of instability. McCoy grabs reserve officer Michael O’Conner and heads to Joe Pellerito’s country home to see about an interview. They find the place deserted but stumble on a crucial piece of evidence; Pellerito lives at the intersection of Hollis and Charles Roads and one of the slain police officers had the name “Charles Hollis” scribbled in his notebook.
Investigative efforts are now focused on a single suspect and search warrants are collected so that the police can have a closer look. They uncover evidence of recent communications with relatives in Florence, Italy and the absence of things like shoes and luggage in Joe’s house convince them that he’s fled the country.
Lieutenant Otis Springfield contacts the Florence, Italy police department and receives a surprisingly quick response that the man they are seeking is, in fact in Florence and under police surveillance. Arrest warrants are prepared and Otis Springfield books his flight to Italy to take custody of the prisoner after the Italian police make the arrest.
In his curiosity regarding his ancestry, Otis has discovered that his father is buried in the American Military Cemetery in Florence, Italy.
*****
Joe Pellerito feels safe in Italy. He has made his contacts and his new identity is being prepared. In a few days he will have a new name, a new past, and a hopeful future.
A leisurely lunch in a sidewalk café results in a chance meeting with a woman. Joe is immediately smitten. This woman is beautiful, successful, educated, and sophisticated. She’s everything that Joe has ever dreamed of and she is equally attracted to Joe. Carmella is pure and wholesome, everything that Joe is not. But Joe sees in her everything that he wants to be. He sees truth and love and virtue, all things that have been missing from his own life. He begins to question himself, his past, his values, and his soul. He immediately regrets the misguided deeds of his past, his remorse sincere. How could he have ever been so foolish? But Joe sees a whole new life ahead of him, a life free of crime and murder, a life filled with love and joy. In his new identity he will embrace the beauty of life. He can see it through Carmella’s eyes.
*****
Anthony Falzone and bodyguard Louie Iamurri are in Florence Italy, guests of the local Mafia chieftain who has provided them with a safe house, pistols, shotguns, explosives, all of the weapons needed to carry out an assassination. Anthony is insisting that Joe must die by his hands in order to avenge the death of his younger brother. He is looking at his options for a means of death and seems fascinated by the dynamite. Louie tries to discourage Falzone saying that killing should be left to those who kill for a living but Anthony Falzone remains steadfast. Joe Pellerito will be lured here later this morning on the pretense that he’ll be getting his new identity. Everything is prepared. Joe Pellerito will die today.
*****
Lieutenant Otis Springfield will have to be a spectator at the arrest of Joe Pellerito this morning. He will officially become a part of the case at the extradition hearing, which could occur any time following the arrest. He will be allowed to accompany the arresting officers as a courtesy. All of the paperwork is complete and the team is preparing to depart for the hotel where Joe is staying when a phone call announces that Joe has just left his hotel with another man in a taxicab. A team is trailing the cab and will report as soon as they reach their destination. Otis and Carlo, the Italian detective, settle back to wait for further information.
When the police radio springs to life, even though he doesn’t understand a word of Italian Otis can tell that something was wrong. Carlo jumps to his feet and says, “Let’s go. The cab just let him off at a place that is owned by the Mafia. It smells like a trap.”
The cops arrive at the warehouse prepared to storm the building. There isn’t a moment to lose. Men are stationed at critical points around the perimeter of the building and another team is in front of the door, just hefting a heavy battering ram when a powerful explosion rocks the entire neighborhood, blowing the doors off the building and shaking bricks loose, blanketing the area under a huge cloud of cement dust.
The police forces miraculously escape any serious injuries but there are no survivors inside the warehouse. Probing the rubble under the glow of generator lighting, investigators find bodies so mutilated that they’ll have to be identified through DNA, fingerprints, and dental records.
*****
Otis Springfield returns to his hotel room feeling frustrated and cheated. He had wanted to face the man who had tried to kill him, to stare into his eyes and to feel his justice. But the explosion has deprived him of that satisfaction.
A light blinking on the phone alerts him to a message from home. With great trepidation he calls his wife and is enthusiastically informed that their oldest son had just pitched the winning game of the tri-state championship and the crowd was filled with college scouts. There would surely be a big selection of scholarship offers on the way.
Separating his thoughts from the emotion filled events of the past few hours, Otis decides to celebrate a family success. After several drinks he realizes that the happy crowd in the hotel bar isn’t what is needed. Family is needed and he is thousands of miles from home. Then it dawns on him. “I have family right here in Florence. My father’s here.” Otis jumps in the car and heads for the cemetery. It’s after midnight now and the gate is locked so he has to climb the fence to get inside. Shortly, he finds his fathers grave and settles into the grass in front of the marker. He begins. “Dad? Geeze, I’ve never called anyone dad. Never in my whole life. Dad? Dad. It sounds good…”
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Pacwriter
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Registered: 04-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, December 11, 2005 - 03:11 pm: | |
the best guide for writing a synopsis I found on the internet is here.
http://www.fictionwriters.com/tips-synopsis.html
So far, it has worked for me when I get to the synopsis stage with an editor.
http://www.perrycomer.com
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C. E. Winterland
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Post Number:
1914
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, December 12, 2005 - 12:34 pm: | |
Over the years I've learned to write the long synopsis (the 10 pager), and carefully slice off bits here and there to achieve the 5 page and 2 page synopses.
Anyone asking for a 1 page synopsis of a 130,000 word epic fantasy isn't going to like my work much, I think. Still, I have a 1 pager hidden in the warrens of my computer files somewhere... just in case.
For those of you who have way more talent at writing concisely than I, I suppose it's difficult to do the 10 pager - or maybe not.
I did write an 'argument' (in the 19th century literature sense) for the Mindsight Series recently - it turned out really well and is only 1 page. I will probably write more of those 
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Scott F. Falkner
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108
Registered: 08-2004
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 01:01 am: | |
I once read about a synopsis exercise that went something like the following:
Sum up your book in a single sentence. (Yeah, it's hella hard, but possible.)
Then, sum up your book in a single paragraph.
Then, two paragraphs.
Then, a page.
Three pages.
Five.
Ten.
Other writers think it's easiest to go from ten and dwindle that down to a single sentence. Either way, it's good to have several different synopsis lengths, depending on what an editor wants. In addition to that, by completing the above exercise you really come to understand the "bare bones" of what your book is about. Next time someone asks you, "What's it about?", you'll have no problem answering.
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C. E. Winterland
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 05:10 am: | |
Excellent point, Scott.
Any pointers on how to get that 2500 word sentence a little more streamlined? (just kidding)
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Dennis Collins
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Tuesday, December 13, 2005 - 05:48 am: | |
CE You sure wouldn't want to ask Herman Melville that question. His reply would be an explanation of how to write that 2500 word sentence without the aid of any punctuation.
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Dennis Collins
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 05:37 am: | |
New information...
On one of the panels that I sat on during last weekend's conference a question came from the audience about the value of a synopsis. One of the panel members, a well established author, stated that she had never written a synopsis and never intended to. I was rather surprised by this revelation and so when I got home, I posed the question to the 3000+ registered members of the DorothyL (for Dorothy L Sayers) online writer's forum.
One woman who is an executive for a major publishing house responded that the synopsis is given to the art department and the cover art is based on their interpretation of the synopsis and another copy goes to the folks who write the back cover text. The entire manuscript is not routinely shown to these people.
Another member said that prior to acceptance of her novel, the publisher wanted mini-synopses for the next ten books in that series. I think I'd have mixed emotions over that one. A ten book deal or will I blow the whole thing? Where's my Maalox?
In my interview with literary agent Cherry Weiner she said: "Tell me everything I need to know about your book in one sentence!" Now that's a short synopsis.
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priceless1
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Saturday, February 11, 2006 - 12:15 pm: | |
If the panel member had never written a synopsis, how did her agent plug her book to the publishers? At some point along the way, she had to have written a synopsis in order to capture the attention of an agent.
We use some version of the synopsis that the author provided to us, but tweak it to capture our intended audience.
Yes, Dennis, agents normally want the gist of a story in one sentence, so you really need to get a huge hook in that one shot. Agents often joke that it's because they have a short attention span. That's not at all true. They're just under a lot of pressure. |
Fred Dungan
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There are two types of publishers. The first type goes to a car lot, looks at the pretty paint and listens to the salesman's spiel. The second type pops open the hood, kicks the tires, and takes it for a test drive. I am of the second variety. The publishers who exclusively rely on queries, pitches, and synopses are of the first. Considering how many books collect dust in bookstores today and end up getting their covers torn off and sent back to the publishers, the slackers pretty much get what they deserve.
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