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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Sunday, March 12, 2006 - 08:52 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

It seems that more and more American writers are competing for less and less readers. Are the waters being overfished? I don't think so. The English-speaking world grows larger by the minute. Our potential audience is many times greater than the number of people we are actually reaching.

Then what went wrong? I believe we lost our mystique. In other words, we out-smarted ourselves. William Faulkner said that all you need to be a writer is a pen, some paper, and a bottle of whiskey. When the business takes priority over the craft, we do ourselves a disservice. Produce a quality product. In time, people will beat a path to your door.

What do we have to lose? Few of us are making any money. This could could easily become the Golden Age of literature. We could make it happen.

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Dennis Collins
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 02:12 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

While writing is an art to many, I believe that publishing is a business. And the sad part of the story is that the writer is at the whim of the publisher to get his work to the public. It's a matter of dollars to the publisher so your work must have a profit potential or most publishers won't even consider it. Seems to me that no matter how much of an artist or professional you consider yourself, you won't reach the mainstream unless you write to spec.
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Tom Elkins
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 05:57 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Faulkner is obsolete, of course. Everything evolves. Today all you need is a computer, a word processor program, and a bottle of vodka.
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Laurel Johnson
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 08:32 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

For me, writing is an art, a gift, a way of communicating. I'm probably an obscure unknown writer because of my philosophy. I'm not a businesswoman, nor do I want to be. I consider writing -- my writing at least -- to be like visual art. It is inspired and has to be done a certain way. I'm not being arrogant, just saying what writing is to me -- a creation that comes to me and must be written in a certain way.

Laurel
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Joyce Scarbrough
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 09:26 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

I agree with the formula for writing essentials, except for the alcohol requirement. I do have an alternate vice, however, and keep my very own sexually potent male handy for frequent fixes.

Stick to your principles, Fred. Someday the world will take notice. BTW, I'm almost finished with The Gospel According to Condo Don.

Toyce

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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 10:20 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

Wow!
I can see how one may write and drink at the same time, but, to write and...well, it just blows my mind. Must be terribly difficult.
Do you have pictures?
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Pacwriter
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

yikes - the computer ate my post
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Pacwriter
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:08 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

As I write more, I come to the conclusion it must be art and must be business.

there are certain requirements that must be met to be published. One of the main things to remember is a story is just a story unless it has something about it different from other stories being told. So--- the art comes in when you create a unique story told in a unique way. The business comes in when that story meets certain standards set forth by those wanting to make money by selling your story in book form to millions of readers.

to sum it up - any halfwit can write a story only a writer can write one people pay to read
my wife put a porn block on my computer and booze messes with my kidneys - I'll have a cigar
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Bill Nelson
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 11:36 am:   Edit PostPrint Post

In my case, it's a hobby.
Wasn't intended to be that way, but, it is what it is...
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Harry Simenon
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 12:17 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Writing gives me pleasure, probably not that much as Toyce's fixes, but still...

I think writing should be an art first of all, and after that business.
As long as business does not get in the way of the art, it's not a problem.

For the moment my writing has very little to do with business, so it is easy for me to say...


But if I can't get published I will throw the whole thing on the internet for free.
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Stephen Lodge
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Posted on Monday, March 13, 2006 - 06:00 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

"But if I can't get published I will throw the whole thing on the internet for free"

I have a lot of my stuff posted on the Internet. Writing is supposed to be read. What good does it do hiding it in a drawer, or on a hard drive?
Novels by Stephen Lodge:
"Shadows of Eagles"
"Charley Sunday's Texas Outfit!"
"Nickel-Plated Dream"

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Fred Dungan
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Posted on Tuesday, March 14, 2006 - 12:56 pm:   Edit PostPrint Post

Stephen,

I totally agree. Why write if it's not going to be read? If at all possible, turn a profit. But please don't stuff it in a musty file drawer and forget about it. Your work is important!

Bushwhacked has been read by more than 25,000 people. If I had listened to PublishAmerica, it would have only been read by family and friends. By all means, upload your work to your website. The first order of business is to get noticed. If that means giving it away for free, then so be it.

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