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Steven Shrewsbury
Hsympothai Member
Post Number:
479
Registered: 04-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 06:55 pm: |   |
I had a talk today about PODs, return polices and iUniverse with the assistant manager at the B&N today.
He said they seldom if ever actively stock a POD of any brand. The no return (or just, a habit of reordering 3 random books that do not sell for CLEANLINESS reasons) is of course the sticking point. The POD they will deal with is iUniverse because, well, he admitted, B&N owns a quarter fo iUniverse. He was about to tell me about a special palce to sub a published work (not by iUniverse alone but any POD or small press) that B&N would market more due to location or theme etc...and he was called away...and got busy in front and I was forced to go...but it was an interesting thing. He never refused to stock my new book, nor did I even bring it up.
Thoughts?
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Fred Dungan
Hsympothai Member
Post Number:
498
Registered: 10-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Sunday, January 18, 2004 - 08:40 pm: | |
No matter which POD, Barnes & Noble gets a share. Ligtning Books, the company that prints most POD's is owned by Ingram which also owns Barnes & Noble.
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Laurel Johnson
Unity Member
Post Number:
2538
Registered: 01-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 04:28 am: | |
And what Steven and Fred just said also explains why some POD books have to be listed on amazon under the Advantage program. I got that straight from amazon's mouth. If Ingrams or Baker and Taylor are not the distributors, amazon will not order them in. The distributor of the second edition of my book The Alley of Wishes is BookSurge Direct. Neither amazon nor B and N will acknowledge the books they distribute unless it is through the Advantage program. Thus, only the first edition of my book - which is out of print - is on amazon.
As for book stores, only Borders has offered to order from my book's distributor. The two other stores willing to stock it want consignment copies. |
Steven Shrewsbury
Hsympothai Member
Post Number:
480
Registered: 04-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 05:31 am: | |
Thanks for the info, Laurel.
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C. E. Winterland
Mindsight Moderator
Post Number:
1322
Registered: 06-2002
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 06:10 am: | |
Fred,
Though I haven't done the research completely, I think I have to disagree with you that Ingram owns B&N.
In fact, there was discussion that B&N was going to buy Ingram some time ago. See the Publisher's Weekly article "The Vertical Future" from 1/5/04, for example, excerpt here:
When Barnes & Noble decided not to pursue its bid to buy Ingram more than four years ago, many hailed it as a watershed event. At the time, the move seemed to signal the end of a period of consolidation. Instead, it may have done something very different, by prompting the giant retailer to look in another direction, publishing...
Just needed to point that out.
CEW |
Victoria Strauss
Awareness Member
Post Number:
11
Registered: 11-2003
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Votes: 0 (Vote!) | | Posted on Monday, January 19, 2004 - 01:31 pm: | |
Nor does Ingram own Lightning Source, or vice versa. Ingram used to own Lightning Source, but it was spun off into its own company a few years ago.
- Victoria |
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